Androlean...Part of your next cut?
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HereToStudy
Primordial Performance -
Before I start here, I am going to say I am not "fighting" you on this, I am merely discussing it with you.
They are not touted as a magic pill, in fact lets look at my original post here. I merely stated it as a thermogenic product, that will have a bioequivalence of around 100mg test/week for muscle preservation. This isn't anything untrue, nor does either guarantee magic. I certainly know there is no "magic" pill. In fact, I am not known around ology as much as boards I have frequented more heavily, but I will easily tell somene when they are not ready for something, or call them out on putting their entire progress on the line of hormones.
You may notice we are a bit more present here, amongst other boards. There was some holes in our previous rep team and areas that were supposed to be taken care of (such as this board), went ignored. We have been sponsors here for quite some time, however.
I certainly understand your resistance to believe that a powerful hormone can be available OTC, especially when affiliated with a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) company. Look Test is Test, tried and true. Same goes for Deca, Tren, etc. etc. The thing is without a script for HRT, not everyone wants to go the illegal route (country depending), which includes risks of not only incarceration but also potential quality issues. If someone is injecting half a gram of test a week, I don't expect them to be jumping on our products.
However, all I ask is that you take a peek at some of the logs that will certainly pop up. Don't even subscribe if you don't want to, just once a week take a peek at the logs and see what you think of the progress. I can assure you given the history of Primordial, we wouldn't have put all of efforts down on a project that won't deliver. I have a feeling you will be impressed at the least.
We also in the process of preparing for testing that will prove the calculated bio-equivalence of these products. Until then, surely you can be skeptical (hell, everyone is), but unlike companies usually pinned to the "miracle pill" category, we are doing everything within our means to prove it is the real deal.
Ill agree that graphs can be made by anyone, but certainly disagree that studies mean shit. Studies, or more specifically science (of which is derived from studies) is the backbone of innovation in this industry, and a company that chooses to use science as its core should be praised for it, IMO.
Although AndroLean is a great product, we are not predicting it to have the impact on the world that cotton underwear did, now you are just putting words in our mouth.
You won't receive an argument here. The harsh reality of what methyls can do to the body is the exact reason that this product was put into development. As someone who is on numerous boards, and as part of my position spends significantly too much of my life bouncing between them, I cant tell you how many people I have seen made mention of stacking XXdrol with YYdrol, with ZZdrol pulsed in between, all being methyls.
The reason these products are being mentioned in anabolics, is due to the equivalence, which as I mentioned will be proven through testing.
Im not expecting you to be a convert. If you have access to test/tren without legality concerns, you will most likely be satisfied continuing with them (We do however have testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) guys who use our products, most particularly AndroHard). You can never take a single Andro-Pill, all I ask is you peek at the progress of those who are running unbiased logs, and see it is more than just AndroHype.
Damn, I would completely become an early investor, but I dumped all my investment funds into a company certain it is about to produce a time travel machine. Lets hope I make it out well.
They are not touted as a magic pill, in fact lets look at my original post here. I merely stated it as a thermogenic product, that will have a bioequivalence of around 100mg test/week for muscle preservation. This isn't anything untrue, nor does either guarantee magic. I certainly know there is no "magic" pill. In fact, I am not known around ology as much as boards I have frequented more heavily, but I will easily tell somene when they are not ready for something, or call them out on putting their entire progress on the line of hormones.
You may notice we are a bit more present here, amongst other boards. There was some holes in our previous rep team and areas that were supposed to be taken care of (such as this board), went ignored. We have been sponsors here for quite some time, however.
I certainly understand your resistance to believe that a powerful hormone can be available OTC, especially when affiliated with a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) company. Look Test is Test, tried and true. Same goes for Deca, Tren, etc. etc. The thing is without a script for HRT, not everyone wants to go the illegal route (country depending), which includes risks of not only incarceration but also potential quality issues. If someone is injecting half a gram of test a week, I don't expect them to be jumping on our products.
However, all I ask is that you take a peek at some of the logs that will certainly pop up. Don't even subscribe if you don't want to, just once a week take a peek at the logs and see what you think of the progress. I can assure you given the history of Primordial, we wouldn't have put all of efforts down on a project that won't deliver. I have a feeling you will be impressed at the least.
We also in the process of preparing for testing that will prove the calculated bio-equivalence of these products. Until then, surely you can be skeptical (hell, everyone is), but unlike companies usually pinned to the "miracle pill" category, we are doing everything within our means to prove it is the real deal.
Ill agree that graphs can be made by anyone, but certainly disagree that studies mean shit. Studies, or more specifically science (of which is derived from studies) is the backbone of innovation in this industry, and a company that chooses to use science as its core should be praised for it, IMO.
Although AndroLean is a great product, we are not predicting it to have the impact on the world that cotton underwear did, now you are just putting words in our mouth.
You won't receive an argument here. The harsh reality of what methyls can do to the body is the exact reason that this product was put into development. As someone who is on numerous boards, and as part of my position spends significantly too much of my life bouncing between them, I cant tell you how many people I have seen made mention of stacking XXdrol with YYdrol, with ZZdrol pulsed in between, all being methyls.
The reason these products are being mentioned in anabolics, is due to the equivalence, which as I mentioned will be proven through testing.
Im not expecting you to be a convert. If you have access to test/tren without legality concerns, you will most likely be satisfied continuing with them (We do however have testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) guys who use our products, most particularly AndroHard). You can never take a single Andro-Pill, all I ask is you peek at the progress of those who are running unbiased logs, and see it is more than just AndroHype.
btw, i've just finished my project on making a pill that you drop into your gas tank and it increases your mileage by 4000%. $100 for a bottle of 30 and they are to your door in 3 days.
Damn, I would completely become an early investor, but I dumped all my investment funds into a company certain it is about to produce a time travel machine. Lets hope I make it out well.
Repo
P.S.L. Representative
Hey glubgawd - after reading a couple posts after the OP - the whole thing really smelt like bullshit me - I originally stated that but went back and edited my post...
I don't know anything about these products so I figured I'll just zip my mouth.
After reading all the post I'm really not feeling all that warm and fuzzy about the products.
Sorry OP I don't think your exactly winning over the crowd here...
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HereToStudy
Primordial Performance -
Hey glubgawd - after reading a couple posts after the OP - the whole thing really smelt like bullshit me - I originally stated that but went back and edited my post...
I don't know anything about these products so I figured I'll just zip my mouth.
After reading all the post I'm really not feeling all that warm and fuzzy about the products.
Sorry OP I don't think your exactly winning over the crowd here...
I certainly don't need to. If you read my post above all I ask is that you take a look at some of the logs that will be coming out, and make a decision based on actual results, not just your speculation.
Misc
New member
same with ntbm reps
Before I start here, I am going to say I am not "fighting" you on this, I am merely discussing it with you.
They are not touted as a magic pill, in fact lets look at my original post here. I merely stated it as a thermogenic product, that will have a bioequivalence of around 100mg test/week for muscle preservation. This isn't anything untrue, nor does either guarantee magic. I certainly know there is no "magic" pill. In fact, I am not known around ology as much as boards I have frequented more heavily, but I will easily tell somene when they are not ready for something, or call them out on putting their entire progress on the line of hormones.
You may notice we are a bit more present here, amongst other boards. There was some holes in our previous rep team and areas that were supposed to be taken care of (such as this board), went ignored. We have been sponsors here for quite some time, however.
I certainly understand your resistance to believe that a powerful hormone can be available OTC, especially when affiliated with a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) company. Look Test is Test, tried and true. Same goes for Deca, Tren, etc. etc. The thing is without a script for HRT, not everyone wants to go the illegal route (country depending), which includes risks of not only incarceration but also potential quality issues. If someone is injecting half a gram of test a week, I don't expect them to be jumping on our products.
However, all I ask is that you take a peek at some of the logs that will certainly pop up. Don't even subscribe if you don't want to, just once a week take a peek at the logs and see what you think of the progress. I can assure you given the history of Primordial, we wouldn't have put all of efforts down on a project that won't deliver. I have a feeling you will be impressed at the least.
We also in the process of preparing for testing that will prove the calculated bio-equivalence of these products. Until then, surely you can be skeptical (hell, everyone is), but unlike companies usually pinned to the "miracle pill" category, we are doing everything within our means to prove it is the real deal.
Ill agree that graphs can be made by anyone, but certainly disagree that studies mean shit. Studies, or more specifically science (of which is derived from studies) is the backbone of innovation in this industry, and a company that chooses to use science as its core should be praised for it, IMO.
Although AndroLean is a great product, we are not predicting it to have the impact on the world that cotton underwear did, now you are just putting words in our mouth.
You won't receive an argument here. The harsh reality of what methyls can do to the body is the exact reason that this product was put into development. As someone who is on numerous boards, and as part of my position spends significantly too much of my life bouncing between them, I cant tell you how many people I have seen made mention of stacking XXdrol with YYdrol, with ZZdrol pulsed in between, all being methyls.
The reason these products are being mentioned in anabolics, is due to the equivalence, which as I mentioned will be proven through testing.
Im not expecting you to be a convert. If you have access to test/tren without legality concerns, you will most likely be satisfied continuing with them (We do however have testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) guys who use our products, most particularly AndroHard). You can never take a single Andro-Pill, all I ask is you peek at the progress of those who are running unbiased logs, and see it is more than just AndroHype.
Damn, I would completely become an early investor, but I dumped all my investment funds into a company certain it is about to produce a time travel machine. Lets hope I make it out well.
valid points in my book. but if you can see it from "our" perspective, it isn't always about what YOU say, as what the hype around the products you stand behind say.
the general perception i that pro hormones and "natural steroids" and such are MASSIVELY overhyped. thus, anyone who recommends their use is looked at as part of that hype, regardless of whether you yourself make any claims that sound reasonable or not.
i look at your original statement, and my first thought was, sounds great... but i'm sure that it is super expensive, and i wonder what the actual science is behind the "thermogenic effects" and the claim of the equivalent of 100mg/week of test.
personally didn't have enough interest on the topic to go research the actual primordial performance site and see what it says there. but so much of that stuff (generalization) reads like those muscle mag ads for the latest n.o. product. some muscle ridden (powered by steroids) genetic freak talking about how THAT is what gets him the edge.
i find them very hard to read because i'm constantly rolling my eyes and losing my place on the page. by about the third time i've lost the motivation to find it again and i flip to the next page. and read it all again.
just sayin...
tednatas
I am banned!
Unless the logs are by someone with a lot of cycle experience I personally won't be affected one way or another.
I have no doubt that you guys have good stuff for what it is but unless it costs the same and does the same as real gear I could care less... And if these logs come from guys who have never done a real cycle it means nothing to anyone who has...Get what I'm saying
And why can't you freaking guys post in the ph forum?
tednatas
I am banned!
Now lets just talk about bieber...
A new compound called "Jus-Tren Bieberdon Durabieberbolan" has just hit the market! It is the greatest steroid of all time, some say even better then adonis dna. How is this possible? each ML has 1 mcg of our spokesboy's dna in it
Hide yo kids and hide yo wife
A new compound called "Jus-Tren Bieberdon Durabieberbolan" has just hit the market! It is the greatest steroid of all time, some say even better then adonis dna. How is this possible? each ML has 1 mcg of our spokesboy's dna in it
Hide yo kids and hide yo wife
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
Here's the info ezred:
ANDRO hard
ANDRO mass
ANDRO lean
I especially enjoy the "side effects" section. It's that kind of thing that pisses people off. Just list the fucking side effects. Don't turn it into a product pimping section.
To the PP reps - maybe you can help me out. I may be blind, but I don't see any references about the long term study you did on your compounds. It'd be nice to see since it's "safe for long term use." I'd greatly appreciate a link.
Thanks.
ANDRO hard
ANDRO mass
ANDRO lean
I especially enjoy the "side effects" section. It's that kind of thing that pisses people off. Just list the fucking side effects. Don't turn it into a product pimping section.
To the PP reps - maybe you can help me out. I may be blind, but I don't see any references about the long term study you did on your compounds. It'd be nice to see since it's "safe for long term use." I'd greatly appreciate a link.
Thanks.
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
This is my problem too. I don't care if a 40yr dude with a beer gut who's been working out for 8 months uses your product and claims it's awesome. How is that impressive? I'd love to see a dude who's been using real AAS for a few years weigh in on it. Badass dude with a rugged beard (*cough RJ cough*) who could part the sea like Moses with his lat spread.
Also, the "consultation" makes your company look ridiculous. If the product is so safe and effective, why would there ever be a need for this?
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tednatas
I am banned!
hahaha I totally forgot about the consult' hahaha
FYI JB Pharm will not offer consults
seriously we're stepping into the forefront of steroid technology with this one. i mean, seriously, how many steroid labs can YOU name that have an ssc at their disposal.
blood doping? we are into PLASMA doping. you think you got some advanced shizznizzle.... think again.
constantly thinking of ways to make YOU huge. that's what we're about. plain and simple. the most crucial product in our line, however, is the brainwasher. it actually brainwashes you to understand proper dieting and training techniques. no more "my shit is in check" cause now we check your shit and straighten it out FOR YOU if it is bent out of shape.
tednatas
I am banned!
Jus-Tren will in fact make you hunger for only the right portions at the right times.
Side effects include eating humans and trees
we will, however, offer an online questionnaire that helps us determine just what your desired level of awesomeness is so we can help tailor the proper dosage plan for your needs.
this isn't about safe and effective for us.... STRICTLY about how much bieber you want inside you.
tednatas
I am banned!
yeah but it's like the difference between prop and enanthate.
prop is more major intrusion. gets more in you at once, but harder to maintain optimum comfort levels.
bieber acts like a long ester. smaller dosage, but with frequent dosing can provide more stable penetration levels and an overall elevated general comfort level.
Sounds like the boys covered all my concerns and a couple extra. Let's get some guys who have experience with AAS, and BB, and who realizes PH's are gay. I'm sure Glub can post a pic of the type of gay I'm speaking of. And have those people run a log. We need someone who is know around here and will give a honest(gay) review, so we have a real comparison because EZ and Ted's statements of JB sound about the same as what all the supplement companies state about their products. Look at things like creatine, it works pretty well and I'll use it occassionaly but I can easily go without it and not think twice about it, and I think of that as one of the best supplements around because it will help increase strength, but when it comes time to put in work and get jacked, I don't say I better get some creatine and I might sound a little gay if I said I better get my andro hard (JK JK). Point is, I'd like to see some people who are credible log the products. All of them.
And no offense to JBPHARM we all know it's the bomb yes I did make that gay statement.
And no offense to JBPHARM we all know it's the bomb yes I did make that gay statement.
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tednatas
I am banned!
tednatas
I am banned!
I sat here trying to top this for 5 mins... It can't be beat
Good Grip
New member
Ah man..now that one hurt. Im willing to concede the thought that our products are not for some of the big boys here (but please keep an open mind), but please dont put us in the same thought of ntbm. We actually strive to be the opposite of them and remain an honest company. Let me just comment on some of the points that were brought up here.
The consultation. For the guy willing to spend the money to be spoon fed information that would take hours and hours of searching and studying to make the most of his cycle and efforts, the consultation can be a nice option.
The Marketing. Its part of the industry to sell the strong points of a product and this is what we are doin. Everything claimed will be backed up.
Okay, my thoughts on these products, and yes im biased but I want to be upfront and honest. The Androseries I think are goin to be high quality products that will work. They were designed to be effective and safe and be able to survive the next ban. For those with extensive aas, I think its goin to be hard to put in a dent in their physiques, but I would love to see someone do this and see the outcome.
Look guys, we dont mean to come in your section and degrade it in anyway, we just want to increase awareness of the company and the products, and if we see genuine opportunity that any of you guys might consider, we're goin to jump on it. Okay let me turn this around to the guys that call this forom home. What would you like to see from us reps and our company?
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