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Androlean...Part of your next cut?
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RA64
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Ok PP guys you now have a Vet willing to run and log the product, so no more only if he does it this way bullshit.
Put your money and all this fucking big talk and claims you have been making to a real life trial by fire and let RJ test it.
I am willing to bet it will never happen.
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OK, i just read the write up on your site for this stuff. i have a few questions.
the supposed 91mg/test enan equivalent anything that would effect the HPTA? If not, what are these claims based off of. i don't see how you can equate something to what you woudl get from injecting exogenous test, without effecting the HPTA.
Also, you mentioned bloodwork needed. As my BW test levels will already be in the 3-4000 range as I am cycling, and since this is touted as a thermo, does it really matter if i get BW or not? i would mainly be logging this for its 'cutting' effects not its ability to give me a measley 91mg of test.
the supposed 91mg/test enan equivalent anything that would effect the HPTA? If not, what are these claims based off of. i don't see how you can equate something to what you woudl get from injecting exogenous test, without effecting the HPTA.
Also, you mentioned bloodwork needed. As my BW test levels will already be in the 3-4000 range as I am cycling, and since this is touted as a thermo, does it really matter if i get BW or not? i would mainly be logging this for its 'cutting' effects not its ability to give me a measley 91mg of test.
i'm not a vet, but i'd be down to try it out once i come off my post cycle therapy (pct) and my bloodwork balances back out.
i'm curious about the HPTA effects as well, like RJ. my pre-cycle natty test was already beyond that, so if it does affect HPTA then i would essentially be LOWERING my test, assuming i can recover it fully or at least nearly back to what it was baseline.
i'm curious about the HPTA effects as well, like RJ. my pre-cycle natty test was already beyond that, so if it does affect HPTA then i would essentially be LOWERING my test, assuming i can recover it fully or at least nearly back to what it was baseline.
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
lol brave man RJ. Be sure to snag that consultation too. Maybe record it so we can all giggle at it together?
What would I like from PP reps? Either prove that your products are all oral testosterone (none of them are) or KEEP THE PIMPING IN THE PRO HORMONE SECTION WHERE IT BELONGS.
Oh and I'm still waiting for any evidence whatsoever that PP spent any time and energy to even attempt a long term study of their compounds. Specifically AndroMass which is claimed as a RIDICULOUSLY expensive Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) product.
I'm also interested in seeing the actual raw research data in assessing the testosterone equivalency.....especially since the effects of DHEA are questionable in other literature and so is androstenedione. I'm sure your company has it readily available in an excel or .sas file since they undoubtedly used SAS to run the statistical analysis.
What can I say? I'm a statistician. I love playing with numbers for fun. It'll give me a little side project to test out my new lenovo T/W420 once they come out later this month.
What would I like from PP reps? Either prove that your products are all oral testosterone (none of them are) or KEEP THE PIMPING IN THE PRO HORMONE SECTION WHERE IT BELONGS.
Oh and I'm still waiting for any evidence whatsoever that PP spent any time and energy to even attempt a long term study of their compounds. Specifically AndroMass which is claimed as a RIDICULOUSLY expensive Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) product.
I'm also interested in seeing the actual raw research data in assessing the testosterone equivalency.....especially since the effects of DHEA are questionable in other literature and so is androstenedione. I'm sure your company has it readily available in an excel or .sas file since they undoubtedly used SAS to run the statistical analysis.
What can I say? I'm a statistician. I love playing with numbers for fun. It'll give me a little side project to test out my new lenovo T/W420 once they come out later this month.
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well, on average, using myself as an average testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) client, 100mg of exo test per week keeps me in the 6-750 range.
I'm just not getting the ability to correlate the claims being made without a direct effect on the HPTA.
yeah. i was up over 1k natty pre-cycle. so i wouldn't want to take something that shut down hpta and only left with me less than i started with anyway. of course we'll see if i can recover back to baseline
i think between me you and Glub we have asked enough for now.
i don't mind trying this now as i think it would be strictly as an aide in BF loss. But an $80 bottle of thermogenics better get me to 8% with a decent diet. Shit i can buy 2000 Clen tabs for that.
Forget about the test equivalence (which i still say is bullshit), for that money, i better have a six pack by day 4.
i don't mind trying this now as i think it would be strictly as an aide in BF loss. But an $80 bottle of thermogenics better get me to 8% with a decent diet. Shit i can buy 2000 Clen tabs for that.
Forget about the test equivalence (which i still say is bullshit), for that money, i better have a six pack by day 4.
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
Sweet. So you're saying there's gonna be a lot of topless pics involved?
Be sure to get creative.
lmao word.
Sweet. So you're saying there's gonna be a lot of topless pics involved?
Be sure to get creative.
I'm sure i can whip up something special for you big fella.
I'm guessing that the results of said log would entail changing the name from Androlean to StillBigandSoft
I am offering it to anyone, as in anyone...I feel the exact same way you do I want to see a VET with AAS experience run these, that's why I said anyone. I could care less about some 40 year old with a beer gut, bring on the VET with AAS experience that knows his shit.
We do post in the PH section we posted here because we want an experienced VET with AAS experience to chime in. We also would like one of you to run it. We aren't hiding from anything, we knew what kind of reception we would get.
As far as the write-ups, these are based off tons of (reputable) studies, not some MT bullshit. They are also our innovation, not cloned supps from different companies, or cheaply sourced SD from China. We invested a lot of time and money in this. However, I agree with your sentiments, it means nothing if the products don't work. The science behind these products is solid, so we have no reason to think otherwise.
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Damn looks like the PP guys don't have a response to your questions.
Taking bets on what their response will be.
My guess more meaningless bullshit.
Wow you are back and forth...
RA64
I am banned!
Yeah, I guess that qualifies me to be a PP rep.
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
Still waiting for these links. Read my previous posts in this thread to see my specific wants.
If there are "tons" of studies, I'd have figured one of you PP guys would have posted my links by now.
You mean a link to a study on the side effects of testosterone, and DihydroBoldenone?
I'll try and get Eric in here....
As far as any of the studies they are all posted in the reference section
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