Been on Tren six months, getting bloodwork friday for test levels

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So I have been doing tren 75mg Eod for about six months.
totally no libido.

So I told a doctor and he said maybe your testosterone levels are low, here's a lab sheet, get it checked out.

I thought to myself, well no shit, Ive totally shut myself down with the long tren use, no need for a blood test to figure that great mystery out. So I sayz, whats the treatment for that? He said: testosterone supplementation.

So Im like, hey, why not take the bblood test. I havent taken a shot since Monday and I can get the bloodwork done this friday and score some insurance paid testosterone.

My question is this? You guys think I will qualify for HRT with a low test level with a tren only cycle?
(the reason why I care and why I only used tren is that I have no source for anything but fina)
Thanks for any input
 
to be clear, did the doc know you were running the tren? You could certainly qualify, I guess that's why he's running the test. Your prolactin and everything else is probably out of whack also. I'd like to see those lab results if you care to share.
 
if you told you doc you using steorid illegally you just fucked yourself for life and possibly health insurance. if you get it it would be VERY high.
also dont tell me the "patient confidentiality" bullshit they make you signe that right away when you go for health or life INC. if you dont then they denie you anyway so.
also beign on tren for 6 months is not very good for u im sure.
was this with NO TEST also?
 
I can t wait to see those numbers dude...please please share...jeeeeeez. 6 months..a pic would be good to as if you ain t big as fuck your..well... very silly to do that to yourself bro...imho.
 
so are you saying that you ran tren 19nor compound with no testosterone?
wen tren should be 10wks 12wks i would do but thats all.
 
this is gonna be interesting... im curious as to your lab results.. please post them when u get ur hands on them
 
Johnnny said:
So I have been doing tren 75mg Eod for about six months.
totally no libido.

So I told a doctor and he said maybe your testosterone levels are low, here's a lab sheet, get it checked out.

I thought to myself, well no shit, Ive totally shut myself down with the long tren use, no need for a blood test to figure that great mystery out. So I sayz, whats the treatment for that? He said: testosterone supplementation.

So Im like, hey, why not take the bblood test. I havent taken a shot since Monday and I can get the bloodwork done this friday and score some insurance paid testosterone.

My question is this? You guys think I will qualify for HRT with a low test level with a tren only cycle?
(the reason why I care and why I only used tren is that I have no source for anything but fina)
Thanks for any input
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Jesus christ man! Do you have balls at all anymore?6 months of tren?!!! Thats crazy! Did you run HCG?Please do post your blood work!
 
to be clear, did the doc know you were running the tren? You could certainly qualify, I guess that's why he's running the test. Your prolactin and everything else is probably out of whack also. I'd like to see those lab results if you care to share.


No, I didnt tell him, yeah Ill post them up when I get them probably next monday. I want to go a few days with no tren as I dont know what that will show as and it leaves pretty quickly.


if you told you doc you using steorid illegally you just fucked yourself for life and possibly health insurance. if you get it it would be VERY high.
also dont tell me the "patient confidentiality" bullshit they make you signe that right away when you go for health or life INC. if you dont then they denie you anyway so.
also beign on tren for 6 months is not very good for u im sure.
was this with NO TEST also?

I didnt tell him I did and he's not my primary care doctor. Just a buddy So I wasnt going to tell him but he wouldnt give a shit. He used to be a hippie back in the day
Yes this was with no test b/c I dont have an underground source anymore. New city and havent been posting on the boards for years. Just brewed my own fina. If the blood results come back that I qualify for HRT then I take them to my primary doc

I can t wait to see those numbers dude...please please share...jeeeeeez. 6 months..a pic would be good to as if you ain t big as fuck your..well... very silly to do that to yourself bro...imho.

Actually, I did it b/c I became a fat fuck and was drinking like 10 beers a day and just totally bloated whale. I tried several times to lose weight by going to the gym and doing cardio. Then I just decided to juice to get results fast and to gain muscle while losing weight. According to the body analysis Ive lost 85 pounds of fat and gained 30 pounds
of muscle. Doing 3 hours of cardio six days a week. Have about 30 pounds more to go to be in single digit bf. Then the before and after pics will be pretty amazing. Would be now but I still got about 2 months to go to be shredded


Jesus christ man! Do you have balls at all anymore?6 months of tren?!!! Thats crazy! Did you run HCG?Please do post your blood work

Yeah actually my balls only seem slightly smaller. No HCG. Definitely will post when I get them for you all.
I followed my bloodwork and I know quite a bit about meds and have access to free samples. So when my HDL cholesterol sank like a rock and my LDL skyrocketed. I put myself on lipitor 40mg, worked like a charm. HDl was still a little low but I have no heart family history so a short while wont hurt me. Blood pressure spiked a bit and my heart got thickened (I did an ultrasound on my heart). It thickened to 1.7cm from 1.0cm. Anything over 1.2 is left ventricular hypertrophy.
Took 40mg lisinopril mixed with 25mg HCTZ and got it from like 170/100 down to about 105/60 with the drugs, weight loss and massive amounts of cardio. All of which lower and my heart muscle shrank from not having to pump against the high bp.

Anyways. I am really happy in doing it. Losing almost a 100 pounds of fat and gaining this amount of muscle in six months. I am sure I am healthier being thinner when all is said and done. :)
 
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Wow. I can't wait to see your results. Although kinda crazy & risky health wise I see & understand the logic in your reasoning. If you lost that much weight & added that much muscle that's pretty incredible. At what point did your libido die out? What if any sides did you experience from the tren? Judging from the amount of weight you claim you still need to lose to get to single digit bf you're around what 15% bf +or-?? Do you have pics of your transformation so far?? If so throw em up bro!!

I'm very interested in where this thread is going....
 
Yah I am very into this thread 6months of Tren sounds insane lol esp on the body. I would love to see some before and after pictures and I'm sure everyone else does to it sounds like you have made quite a journey. Post some pics go go lol
 
I find it interesting that you have access to ultrasounds and Lipitor but not test, what's up with that?

And to JucedPorkChop, you are correct the patient/dr confidentiality goes out the window when you sign the release for the insurance co to pull your medical records.
 
Wow. I can't wait to see your results. Although kinda crazy & risky health wise I see & understand the logic in your reasoning. If you lost that much weight & added that much muscle that's pretty incredible. At what point did your libido die out? What if any sides did you experience from the tren? Judging from the amount of weight you claim you still need to lose to get to single digit bf you're around what 15% bf +or-?? Do you have pics of your transformation so far?? If so throw em up bro!!

I'm very interested in where this thread is going.

Well actually 85 pounds of fat in six months is about 14 pounds per month and I guess I was overly optimistic that I would do 3000-3500 calories of cardio coupled with a tight diet that I could lose weight like the biggest loser. Those people lose 14 pounds in a week sometimes.
And actually, its a bit funky trying to lose weight on tren. I did it mainly to recover from the shiteload of cardio I was doing and to give me mental edge. I dropped to 255 pounds from 310+ pounds in a couple of months. But then I wanted to stoke my metabolism furnace by gaining more muscle.
So even thuogh I was diong hours of cardio. I also added 45 minutes of intense to failure powerlifting mass movements and ate lowfat, lowcarb very high protein diet.
~ I actually went up to 275 with the lifting which was a bit baffling considering I was definitely in negative calories with the cardio and diet. I had a lot of muscle memory having been an avid bodybuilder a number of years ago. But seeing it go the other way gives some angst. However, fat stores shrank during that time and I was feeling the muscle. Awesome feeling.
Libido left probably in a month, Im guessing, I didnt really notice but my S.O. started complaining abuot that, But definitely nt about the physique transormation.



I find it interesting that you have access to ultrasounds and Lipitor but not test, what's up with that?
Connections, Unfortunately there are no vials of testosterone or my problems would be solved already lol.
I havent had a source since like 2006 when I stopped posting on the boards and just got all fat and drunk on my time off. So when I wanted to kickstart my fatloss, I just made some fina, that was the easiest option.
BUT NOW if I can flunk this damn testosterone thing. Then I am home free, Ill have a prescription.



I AM going in a coupe hours to the lab. I want to get the results before the weekend. So tonight I go and hopefullly I can post them up tomorrow

Illl think about the pics. Just thinking maybe I can be the next Subway Jared for some company :P
Dont want to mess it up lol
But Ill definitely post up the bloodwork results of my test levels, hopefullly tomorrow


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My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) prescrition experience went like this..
Test was 110...half of minimum...
Androgel for 3 months...fkn worthless bullshit..
testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose prescribed was 200 mg every OTHER WEEK.
As my doc is cool (he was in pre med and me in grad school together) and so open minded he is allowing me to augment the cycle you see below..off the record..with lab s done fhalfway through to check cholesterol and liver and 3 weeks after to put me back on TRT...
Your lab s are gona be interesting fo sho...
I understand your motivation and wish you well...
 
Yah didn't we just have a sponsor on the board about HRT and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) situations, was it chip?
 
Thomas O'Connor M.D., MS could help out and you can tell him about your usage safely. He is in MD mag if you are not sure who he is.

Sorry, but Tren w no Test is crazy to me. It blows me away when people throw caution to the wind on their health!
 
Ok so just an update, sorry it took so long for those who asked.
So normal range for testosterone is like 240-850
I got my bloodwork done after six months of tren and it didnt even register than I had any testossterone. . yikes!

It was pretty cool though in the fact that I now have a prescription for testosterone and its paid for by insurance for the rest of my life if I want to for hypogonadism. My primary care doctor wanted to put me on androgel and I said I wouldnt be compliant with having to slather that on myself every night. I know I wouldnt do it so he relented and wrote me a script for test cypionate at a dose of 100mg every 2 weeks. Which is standard procedure, to get it checked in a month to establish my "trough" then adjust the dose up from there. I of course immediately took 300 mg shot when I got out of the walmart pharmacy. More on the effects later in the post. I did another 250 mg the next week and then 100mg the 3rd week as prescribed and waited 2 weeks to get my bloodwork for the trough measurement. The results a few days ago came back and I was like 220m. S going to go monday to get the dose increased.

As far as doing this, I am glad I did it but would not do it again. I basically lost 80 pounds of fat in the six months. But towards the end I was miserable. Exhausted all the time, no libido and had to take several naps and completely out of it half the time with no testosterone in my system.
Since starting the test therapy I stopped the fina and I do believe I will never take it again. Ive actually gained some muscle in the past month. And I feel fucking fantastic since I have testosterone in my system. It truly is like night and day. I didnt even realize how bad I was feeling until I injected the first 300mg, 2 days later. I felt alive, like someone flipped a switch. Endless energy on the treadmill and I immediately put on six pounds, muscles felt fuller> libido came back. It was amazing turnaround.

Since my cardio has been like 2 hours a day intense. Now I am down 10 pounds for the month and total fat loss of 90 pounds. People dont even recognize me, its unbelievable when I look in the mirror and my beer gut is gone.
And today, fuck today. I am skinny enough to wear jeans. Bought my first pair of jeans in years and no fat hanging over the belt.

I have 20 more pounds to go to get to single digit bodyfat. I can see muscle definition in everything except my abs are not showing through yet.
In the last week, I added Clen, t3, ketotifen and yohimbine and this past week was the most dramatic fat loss to date with that on board and no side effects to speak of but its not up to the fulll dose. Going to run that for six weeks and I should easily make it to single digit bodyfat by then.

Since I got my blood work done. I am going to run 500mg with a twice weekly shot and going to start some HCG tomorrow with anastrazole.
Hopign to be off everything in 2 months time except for post cycle therapy (pct) to get my nuts turned back on.

I never wanted to compete or anything like that. Just wanted to get rid of all my bodyfat and get from point A to point B as quick as possible.
In retrospect, I shouldnt have run the tren only for so long but I didnt have a source for testosterone or anything else and I just had to make a change and the ease of making fina helped me tremendously. I had kept putting off starting the weight loss program but once I had the fina in hand, I knew that it was now or never and in that respect, it worked for me although I would not recommend it to anyone else as there are better ways than my approach that I did. But it was an experimentof sorts as well.

i am hoping to reach my goal of losing 100 pounds in 3 weeks or less. I know what I did was crazy but Im telling you. i am way healthier now than when I was morbidly obese like I was this time last year. Now I am looking forward to summer and I wouldnt have made it this far without the supplemental stuff. I am looking forward now to when I am done with post cycle therapy (pct) and I am fairly certain that I can recover, if not, well I dont mind being on testosterone replacement. I feel awesome.

thanks for letting me share, oh and as far as pics. I am going to wait until I am single digit bf but I have plenty of before pics. Its disgusting to even look at that fat whale I had become. So it will be pretty amazing when I get to the after pics stage.
Later
 
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