burning off the ester off the testosterone cyp ester
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lol..
why not just get a different ester of test then?
Test e, sus, prop or TNE? Or TPP or Test acetate or whatever there is now days.
2rude4u
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And then what would you do? Without an ester you will be pinning multiple times per day. That what an ester is for, it lengthens the very short half-life of test.
You say you don't respond, but you don't mention how long ago you started? It takes several weeks to start seeing results with cyp.
You say you don't respond, but you don't mention how long ago you started? It takes several weeks to start seeing results with cyp.
This^^^ the ester is part of the chemical composition. To remove it would require more than just baking soda or ammonia. It's not something you'd want to do anyway. How long have you been on the test Cyp? Btw the cypionate is just the ester. The ester determines the rate of release into your blood circulation. You don't have to respond to the cypionate ester bc that's not what your responding to. Your body will metabolize it and all that's left is the testosterone. What you're saying makes no sense.
Believe me i have tried and tried with cyp for months and months nothing happens. by removing the ester i just want to determine that the atlesast test work. i want make sure my body has not built antibodies to the ester.testosterone making it useless.
the testosterone molecule should be not different from your natural molecule so it should work,but just want to make sure.
if the body can matebaolize the ester then it can be done naturally as well cant be that comlicated.
any ideas anybody,
I dont plan to do a cycle with this i just want to determine if the stright testosterone works. if it does then i can do trough all the hassel to get all the other esters.
the testosterone molecule should be not different from your natural molecule so it should work,but just want to make sure.
if the body can matebaolize the ester then it can be done naturally as well cant be that comlicated.
any ideas anybody,
I dont plan to do a cycle with this i just want to determine if the stright testosterone works. if it does then i can do trough all the hassel to get all the other esters.
TheFitnessLife4ever
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I remember you... You're the dude who injected test in the vein... There's no such thing as a test non responder so quit trolling
If that's the case then the stuff you're getting is bunk. There's no need to "determine that the test works" bc if it you didn't respond to testosterone you'd not have gone through puberty. Your stuff is garbage or your diet and training is and you're expecting the test to make up for that when it won't.
It not testosterone non responder it's called cyp ester non responder. i have been in contact with 10 other people with the same issue.
so people with out judgement is there any chemistry smart people out here that can tell me how to burn off the ester?
any my stuff is not bunk its from a pharmacy.
2rude4u
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If you have been in contact with 10 other people with the same issue, you have been in contact with 10 other people that do not know WTF they are talking about.
Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and listening to others that are as clueless as you are. The simplest solution is to run down and get labs. Labs will at least tell you where your levels are. Then you can figure it out from there.
Kazmir
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The simple answer to your question is you can't just burn it off, it would require a chemical process which you would not be able to do at home and would have to be done in a lab. It would cost you an arm and leg to do when you can just go out and buy enanthate, if your getting your cyp from a pharmacy you should be able to get enanthate from the same pharmacy. Have you done blood work to determine your not responding to it? What your saying makes little to no sense in a scientific or chemical composition point of view. Get bloodwork done its the tell all
what about andro gel does that have a ester to it? i could burn off the alchol but i think it still has a ester to it. if i could remove the ester then i can inject stright test with insulin needle.
now i mention anti bodies because first when i started injecting i got aches and pains in my liver and kidney for the first month and a half after the nothing. then it was like inecting water.
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2rude4u
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Dude... are you for real? You have a little brain damage going on don't you!
There's a way to purify the test from andro gel but again...you are not a test non responder. You said so yourself. There's no such thing as a cypionate non responder. It's an ester. It does NOT have to activate any cellular receptors. It simply has to be metabolized by the body to release the attached testosterone. There is no way you do not metabolize the ester. There no such thing as an ester non responder bc you're not supposed to respond to the ester, it's never going to activate androgen repceptors in the cellular membrane and it's not supposed to. It is merely a time delayed release mechanism similar to what they do on pankillers and other prescription meds. And on those meds l, similar to your situation, they do not bypass the release mechanism bc of non responsiveness. They don't respond to the medication itself. The medication here is testosterone which you are a responder of n
Bro - Test non responder? I've been involved in Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for a long time. I have never seen this before. I have seen people have a small reaction to certain esters. Now the product still worked but people found their bodies didn't care for certain esters. So they would just switch from cyp to enth etc... My body doesn't like prop...but it still works. Like many above have said get some blood work. A simple Test level will tell you your level. From there you can see what's truly going on. Take 400Mg IM and get your blood work in 2-4 days. If your level is low (under 700) your stuff is bunk. I know you said its real, but even real pharmacies have had counterfeit products show up (less then .0001% are fake) but never the less it can and does happen. The ester effect. Like they said the ester is just added to the testosterone molecule to slow/extend the release of the drug into ones system. Test suspension is straight test mixed with sterile H2O and a preservative added to keep it sterile. Good luck I hope you figure it out and start growing!
i dont respond to cyp ester.....body cant hydrolyze it lack proper esterase end of story. never said i was a test responder, cyp non responder.
can anyone explain the pain i got in the liver and kidneys first 1 and a half MONTH it does not happen any more.
any way forget all that.
HOW DO WE PURIFY ANDROGEL TO STRIGHT TEST, THAT SHOULD NOT BE TOO HARD.
i HAVE HEARD androgel actually has a ester to it also thats why some people dont repond to androgel as well.
I could heat the androgel and evaporate the alchole but i was told put ammoinia or baking soda to seperate the test from the ester.
can anyone explain the pain i got in the liver and kidneys first 1 and a half MONTH it does not happen any more.
any way forget all that.
HOW DO WE PURIFY ANDROGEL TO STRIGHT TEST, THAT SHOULD NOT BE TOO HARD.
i HAVE HEARD androgel actually has a ester to it also thats why some people dont repond to androgel as well.
I could heat the androgel and evaporate the alchole but i was told put ammoinia or baking soda to seperate the test from the ester.
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You think you suddenly became a non responder to an ester in 1.5months of use?
dude i been working with this shit for 2 fucking years. i was talking about the ache and pains i got in my liver and kideneys at first 2 months. now i dont get anything like injecting water. antibodies?
but what ever ;ets focus on the andro gel how do we purify it to stright test?
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