Can I run anything on its own??

Best advice would be do Test only 400to 600mg a week spaced out 2 inj per week! reason being is u need to under stand the sides of each compound u take individually! This is conservative but sound advice! (10/12weeks)

Can you run other things on first cycle yes if u have issues what ya gona due? What can u pull/back off exc?

If your freind said run test and tren on first run u need better friends! Tren can kill ones labido every bit as much as Deca! Its person dependant imo. Neither kill my labido! Tren can also cause some undesirable sides!

Research PCT and AI's so you know what to have on hand and what they do so you know why your using them theres a few threads around on PCT and such
 
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I believe rider just gave you the best option you can do for first cycle if want to add something more than just test. It`s up to you to listen or not.
 
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Best advice would be do Test only 400to 600mg a week spaced out 2 inj per week! reason being is u need to under stand the sides of each compound u take individually! This is conservative but sound advice! (10/12weeks)

Can you run other things on first cycle yes if u have issues what ya gona due? What can u pull/back off exc?

If your freind said run test and tren on first run u need better friends! Tren can kill ones labido every bit as much as Deca! Its person dependant imo. Neither kill my labido! Tren can also cause some undesirable sides!

Research PCT and AI's so you know what to have on hand and what they do so you know why your using them theres a few threads around on PCT and such

Bro this sounds solid....
 
hahaha he's a been a friend since I was a kid, fuck if thats the best friend I have I wonder what the rest are like! Thing is his source was with him all the way my sourse is gonna give me what I want and disappear which is why Im here and going to take your sound advice. It makes sense rather than running a stack first up. Thanks Phat Bastard! Abit more research for me I think!!!
 
That sounds good to me, It makes sense. More research I think. That guy has been a friend since I was a kid!!! hahaha wonder what my other friends are like!! 10/12 weeks sust and PCT will have to be researched!!! Thankyou PhatBastard!!!
 
hahaha he's a been a friend since I was a kid, fuck if thats the best friend I have I wonder what the rest are like! Thing is his source was with him all the way my sourse is gonna give me what I want and disappear which is why Im here and going to take your sound advice. It makes sense rather than running a stack first up. Thanks Phat Bastard! Abit more research for me I think!!!

your friend may just not know whats right dont mean hes a bad friend listen to phat bastard he knows the game
 
Since its your 1st cycle you will make great gains off of test only. Save the stacking for future cycles when you're not responding to test only as well. Add 4 weeks of dbol to your 2nd cycle maybe.
 
I heeded this advice,it makes more sense than anything I've read from other sites, I will only be doing a test only for my first cycle, I'm gonna give it abit more time till I'm in better shape, need to research pct properly, I'm still abit umm conflicted as to how long I should run it some say 10/12 weeks some say 14/16 weeks or even 6/8 weeks? What effect would it have on my pct how many weeks of a run equal up to a week of pct?
 
I'm 6"1 82kg probably 10/12% bf, I did drop down to 3% a year ago at 87kgs but dislocated my shoulder, so I'm trying to get back there but this time bigger stronger faster more ripped!! Ok so it seems Tes for 15 weeks will be ok for my first run? Can I run sustanon as my Test?

u were NEVER 3%bf bro... this is fact that even Phat B will agree with ;)
 
Hahaha ok I got a pic not that good though? Is it impossible to be 3%? The guys in my gym didn't believe it so I used the machine infront of them and it came up 3% it was an omron something?
 
Ok fair enough I had my doubts anyway, the machine did say that though!! So Ive done my research Im think of doing a 12 week course of Sus

500mg injected per week (mon 250mg- thurs 250mg)

PCT 20 days after last pin


Clomid WEEK 1 50mg EVERDAY
WEEK 2 40mg EVERDAY
WEEK 3 30mg EVERDAY
WEEK 4 20mg EVERDAY
WEEK 5 20mg EVERDAY

Is this sufficient for my first run?
 
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