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[cman81]

DIRK, this whole meal plan was calculated by fitday(assuming that they are fairly accurate.) And they were added in as cooked and uncooked. I tried it again and the kcal count I got was again 5523

 

[cman81]

So basicly what should I tweak?

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

Hey, everyone says keep it the same.....so go for it.

 

[Frosty]

Well, it looks ok, only thing I would change would be to eat all whole eggs in the morning and replace the flax oil with fish oil. Flax oil at 1-2 TEAspoons would be fine, but then 1g/10lbs bwt of fish oil per day.

 

[Milhouse]

Dirk, someone that has a really active job can burn an insane amount of calories. 4500 calories a day is not something totally unbelievable. I remember reading how pioneers exploring the west would eat 10,000 calories a day because they would be burning that much just by working all day.

I highly doubt the "pioneers exploring the west" were eating this much per day considering when they were expolring food wasnt exactly in huge quantities except when hunting which they had to do to survive and were feeding broods of people in thier wagon train. And considerint the fact that many of the pioneers died of starvation etc when they were 'exploring" kind of hurts the 10000 cals a day theory.

If anything I would beleive they would be gorging on food in those quantitites when available so thier bodies would store fat for the days they did not get much food due to the elemennts they were under.

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

Milhouse i'm in total agreement with you -

However as soon as i opened my mouth someone would have pulled some obscure quote from somewhere to discredit me.

 

[Frosty]

I highly doubt the "pioneers exploring the west" were eating this much per day considering when they were expolring food wasnt exactly in huge quantities except when hunting which they had to do to survive and were feeding broods of people in thier wagon train. And considerint the fact that many of the pioneers died of starvation etc when they were 'exploring" kind of hurts the 10000 cals a day theory.

If anything I would beleive they would be gorging on food in those quantitites when available so thier bodies would store fat for the days they did not get much food due to the elemennts they were under.

Ever hear of pemmican?

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

MMM!!! Beef Jerkey ------

 

[Frosty]

MMM!!! Beef Jerkey ------

Well, you're HALF right

Pemmican is dried meat that is ground up and mixed 50/50 with some type of rendered fat. Either beef tallow or maybe even lard. Sometimes berries were ground in for flavor. The rendered fat would preserve it, and they would put it in cleaned out animal stomachs and take it with them on their trips and eat pounds of it per day. As you would imagine, it is EXTREMELY calorie dense.

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

Half right - I know you've heard of Pemmican Beef Jerkey!!!! Where did the name come from? HMM -

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

Give me some Hard Tac and i'd be set!!!!!

 

[rubberduckyo]

Half right - I know you've heard of Pemmican Beef Jerkey!!!! Where did the name come from? HMM -

Pemmican was the dried meat that the Indians and early pioneers would chew. It was dried so as not to spoil.

 

[Frosty]

Half right - I know you've heard of Pemmican Beef Jerkey!!!! Where did the name come from? HMM -

I don't know, but real pemmican was half fat and half ground up dried meat.

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

Pemmican was the dried meat that the Indians and early pioneers would chew. It was dried so as not to spoil.

And Beef Jerky isn't the same thing - I think we've established that-

Fat and Meat -

We've got some bright ones here.

And yes there is a brand of "Beef Jerky" named Pemmican. Its fairly common. Just pointing that out.

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

And did i mention their mascot is an Indian......

 

[Frosty]

And Beef Jerky isn't the same thing - I think we've established that-

Fat and Meat -

We've got some bright ones here.

And yes there is a brand of "Beef Jerky" named Pemmican. Its fairly common. Just pointing that out.

Ok, gotcha.

The real point of this was that Milhouse said that he doubted Pioneers could eat that much, and I just pointed out one method they used to get enough food to fuel their work.

 

[Milhouse]

umm yeah the donner party I guess had alot of pelican I mean pmmican to eat.

My point is that food was not plentiful year round so 10000 calories a day although realistic at times was probably not the everyday norm