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Cobra Strike
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absolutely not!!! Have you ever ran a cycle of anything before? Your kinda young
Cobra Strike
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thats a really shitty cycle as well...I wouldnt run that
kbiz26
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Quoted for truth
Cobra Strike
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ok then this is what you need to do...get over to the diet forum to get your diet tweeked for your goals...THIS IS THE KEY TO EVERY CYCLE!!! with out your diet you may as well be injecting water cause it isnt going to do shit....food is the igniter
your first cycle should always be testosterone only....prohormones are a joke by the way...
Run it like this...
weeks 1-12 test enanthate at 250mg mon and thurs. IM
weeks 1-14.5 hcg at 250iu mon and thurs..sub q in your belly...if your nuts shrink a little boost it up to 500iu mon and thurs...
pct
weeks 15-18 clomid 50/50/50/50 ed/4 weeks...
or nolva at 40/40/20/20 ed/4 weeks (I feel nolva is best ran with clomid but opinions vary)
or toremifene at 60/60/60/60 ed/4 weeks
there is a quick thrown together cycle for a beginner
and remember....diet is key!!!
these are strictly my opinions and anyone else can say what they want
i was gonna say what i wanted, then i just decided it would look too much like i was just plagiarizing cobra.... so i'll just say read his post again it is a good layout.
if you are absolutely dead set on adding the primo, don't run a poor man's dose, run it at 600-800mg/week.
if you are absolutely dead set on adding the primo, don't run a poor man's dose, run it at 600-800mg/week.
Cobra Strike
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so your saying you are going to do your first cycle as test and your next cycle as primo/test/winny?
why do you want to run the primo and Winstrol (winny) so bad?
i'm going to go out on a limb and assume the reason why you want the info for your "2nd cycle" before you start your first is because you want to order enough gear for both cycles.
that is probably a stretch with most people. a lot of people come in asking for cycle advice about some unspecified future cycle. like "when i run tren, how should i run it? i'm not going to run it this cycle, but in the future.... what's the best way?"
and obviously most of those people are lying and want to run it their first time they just know if they talk only about their first cycle no one will give them advice.
i'll pretend you're not doing that here.
but i'll ask again.... why so deadset on primo and winny?
do you know how they work, what the advantages are? why do you think you need the winny?
i would just run test/primo for the second cycle.
what are your goals? i would run the same amount of test for your second cycle as you're planning on running this cycle, although i'd probably up that to 400 or 500 for this first cycle as well as next cycle.
and then i'd run at least 600mg/week of primo with it.
the vast majority of primo out there is 100mg/ml which means that you'll be pinning a lot of ml each time. might be beneficial to pin the primo and test together, doing it every other day.
i'm going to go out on a limb and assume the reason why you want the info for your "2nd cycle" before you start your first is because you want to order enough gear for both cycles.
that is probably a stretch with most people. a lot of people come in asking for cycle advice about some unspecified future cycle. like "when i run tren, how should i run it? i'm not going to run it this cycle, but in the future.... what's the best way?"
and obviously most of those people are lying and want to run it their first time they just know if they talk only about their first cycle no one will give them advice.
i'll pretend you're not doing that here.
but i'll ask again.... why so deadset on primo and winny?
do you know how they work, what the advantages are? why do you think you need the winny?
i would just run test/primo for the second cycle.
what are your goals? i would run the same amount of test for your second cycle as you're planning on running this cycle, although i'd probably up that to 400 or 500 for this first cycle as well as next cycle.
and then i'd run at least 600mg/week of primo with it.
the vast majority of primo out there is 100mg/ml which means that you'll be pinning a lot of ml each time. might be beneficial to pin the primo and test together, doing it every other day.
Cobra Strike
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you just dont have much of a clue what you want to do...now your talking about peptides...whats it gonna be???
If you really want to run the primo and winny...
primo 1-12 600mg/week
winny 7-12 70-100mg/ed
test e 1-12 800mg/week
hcg and pct as stated above...
oh and next time in your first post...tell us your first cylce is test and you are trying to set up your second...but I still disagree with you running this cycle as your second...your second cycle is suppose to be test and one other compoound....but Im to tired to argue....
anyone else can tweak this if they want...i dont give a shit
i dont have to lie about my first second and third cycle.
I dont understand, instead of helpin some1, yall have to ask ?and piss ppl off wtf is wrong wit u.
Why primo and winny?
i want to loose some weight while maintaning strenght.
if u wanna say somethin stupid then just ignore my post, all i wanted was help on my cycle, i dont really care if u think im lyin or im too young
I dont understand, instead of helpin some1, yall have to ask ?and piss ppl off wtf is wrong wit u.
Why primo and winny?
i want to loose some weight while maintaning strenght.
if u wanna say somethin stupid then just ignore my post, all i wanted was help on my cycle, i dont really care if u think im lyin or im too young
lol chill out man. i was giving you advice on how to run it. i would advise that you throw out the Winstrol (winny). from what i've heard/seen in my very short time on these forums.... people are often pretty disappointed with Winstrol (winny). sure, sometimes guys say they love it. but honestly man, half of it is psychological.
guys take Winstrol (winny), and they think they gotta make the best of it, they eat better, they drop a belt size and see a couple of striations and they are like woohoo Winstrol (winny) is the greatest.
i think the primo and test would suit you fine. if you eat well on test/primo, you will gain good, quality mass and feel good.
do i think you're lying? i honestly didn't think enough about it too decide one way or another. wouldn't surprise me if you aren't, wouldn't surprise me if you are. just saying a lot of people say similar things. first they want to know about a cycle. they get shot down. people tell them test only. then they come back saying "yeah i know i'm gonna just do test the first time, i'm asking for info that i can use on my THIRD cycle." or something like that.
anyway, either way, i still gave you the advice which was to just do test/primo.
primo has some great benefits... it frees up shbg which frees up more of your test (means lower dose of test can be more effective with primo than a slightly higher dose without it)
it also helps promote collagen synthesis. you're lifting big enough that as your strength goes up you're going to be putting more strain on your joints than someone lifting in the 200's for low reps. primo can help this. i think you'd benefit from that. Winstrol (winny) dries you out, specifically people often complain about their joints getting dry. that is NOT something you need to be dealing with.
proper eating with a test/primo cycle would probably be much better for you than a test/primo/winny cycle.
that's my advice.
Winny will be dropped in this case.
I understand diet is #1.
My goal is to drop down to 167.
how much test and primo?
now wer talkin buss..
now i learned not to listen to my friends about juice, been told so mnay times that Winstrol (winny) will do the job but since i joined this forum, i trust yall more.Winny dries u out! good shiet to point out, thnax
I understand diet is #1.
My goal is to drop down to 167.
how much test and primo?
now wer talkin buss..
now i learned not to listen to my friends about juice, been told so mnay times that Winstrol (winny) will do the job but since i joined this forum, i trust yall more.Winny dries u out! good shiet to point out, thnax
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