Doc wont prescribe TRT so I started myself...

My friend is a personal trainer he used his calipers measured in like 3 or 4 spots and did some formula to get the percentage
 
Night it's sucks to see yet again endos who don't seem to know what they are doing. I can appreciate and respect you doing your own trt but like you said do your best to get an endo to prescribe and monitor you. Do research and look around. Explaining how much better you feel since initiating your own therapy should help im sure. As well explaining your understanding to show your effort in self educating and research. This im sure will help. My family doc does all my bloods always and knows what I do and yes disagrees with using gear but based on how i speak he respects that I do it the safest way possible. Knows I'm not some meat head but someone who has taken the time to self educate and continue to learn indefinitely. It's never a sure thing but could help. Keep us posted! Interested to see how things work out. Good luck.
 
Night....
If u find an endo DO NOT tell them you self medicate.
It's a huge red flag for them if they know you are sourcing out Test. They will also write it down in your file...maybe It could cause some issues with insurance coverage etc
 
I must say I disagree only because I'm in Canada. It works differently in the states I guess. The benefits shown from self medicating could prove to be effective to the point the Endo would consider you more seriously. I do appreciate your point though apollon. Didn't count the fact that it's a different way in America. Good lookin out.
 
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I'm Canadian too. I know quite a bit on the canadian medical system. PM me to tell me more about your experiences. ..
You can search mines on here from 2013
 
Well guys thanks for the support. My main goal is really to recover and not need anything but I don't know if it is possible. I haven't told an endo yet but my Dr knows. Last night I spoke with a friend who is an amatuer bodybuilder and he referred me to get yet another opinion from his endo, I guess his dr is very supportive and understanding. DIsagrees yes but it will to the research needed for him atleast and helped him recover. I just want one more kiddo and then it doesn't matter. Last night I was doing some research and realized I was wrong in part of my thinking. I thought fsh was produced by the testes in response to the LH by the HPTA, they both come from the HPTA from what I am seeing. What could cause normal LH but low FSH? Has anyone tried HMG? I wonder if it would be effective.
 
NightHawk44 said:
Well guys thanks for the support. My main goal is really to recover and not need anything but I don't know if it is possible. I haven't told an endo yet but my Dr knows. Last night I spoke with a friend who is an amatuer bodybuilder and he referred me to get yet another opinion from his endo, I guess his dr is very supportive and understanding. DIsagrees yes but it will to the research needed for him atleast and helped him recover. I just want one more kiddo and then it doesn't matter. Last night I was doing some research and realized I was wrong in part of my thinking. I thought fsh was produced by the testes in response to the LH by the HPTA, they both come from the HPTA from what I am seeing. What could cause normal LH but low FSH? Has anyone tried HMG? I wonder if it would be effective.
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I am not super knowledgeable on this, but your low FSH may be pointing towards infertility. You may have high levels of inhibin which inhibits FSH production. See below and do some more reading on your own.

LH and FSH are glycopeptides consisting of two subunits (***945; and ***946;). They share the same ***945; subunit, with specificity endowed by the ***946; subunit. The heterodimer is required for biologic activity; the subunits can be detected in serum and may be increased in certain pathologic conditions (e.g., ***945; subunit elevations in gonadotropin-secreting pituitary adenomas). LH and FSH are synthesized in the same pituitary cell (gonadotrophs) and secreted in a pulsatile pattern. The clearance of these two gonadotrophic hormones differs, with LH having a shorter half-life than FSH. LH and FSH are secreted in a pulsatile pattern regulated by GnRH pulse generator in the hypothalamus. Puberty is heralded by nighttime pulsatile serum patterns before obvious increases are noted in the daytime. Feedback regulation of LH and FSH secretion also occurs at the pituitary, with testosterone, dihydrotestosterone (DHT), and estrogens inhibiting the synthesis or release of both gonadotropins. Circulating testicular peptide products of the Sertoli cell (i.e., inhibin) also produce selective inhibition of FSH. LH and FSH circulate unbound to carrier proteins and act predominantly through specific cell surface receptors on the Leydig and Sertoli cells of the testes, respectively.


Inhibin
In both females and males, inhibin inhibits FSH production. Inhibin does not inhibit the secretion of GnRH from the hypothalamus.[13][14] However, the overall mechanism differs between the sexes:

In males
It is secreted from the Sertoli cells,[15] located in the seminiferous tubules inside the testes. Androgens stimulate inhibin production; this protein may also help to locally regulate spermatogenesis.[citation needed]
 
I am researching right now fertility specialist..but im sure my dr will want me to jerk off in a cup first to show I am infertile. Guess starting tomorrow the girlfriend gets denied lol

Also, I have one testicle that returned to normal size and one that is a little bigger than half the size of the other and I forgot to mention. Anyways that one never fully went back and only that one will significantly fluctuate in size many times throughout the day, however they both are firm still. Any thoughts?
 
In the States, they get testy about it, like you are stepping on their toes...and then they put it in your medical file. That file is supposed to be private, but then so are our phone calls...
 
cybrsage said:
In the States, they get testy about it, like you are stepping on their toes...and then they put it in your medical file. That file is supposed to be private, but then so are our phone calls...
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Nothing is private in a medical office. Docs write notes between themselves too. They lie in there too. I've seen it with my own eyes.
 
That is pretty shitty...called my dr waiting for the uro referral and gotta wait 3 days pick up the cup leave my deposit then off to a fertility dr
 
Well we've had sex for the past year and a half/2 years most of the time not pulling out and no conception. I have a child and so does she but she also has had irregular periods since we have been together. We are not looking for conception but not opposed. If my sperm count and motility is good then she will have to go back for health issues which she has but no conclusive results. Also I kinda just want to know...if I am not producing and my fsh is not responding I am assuming a fertility dr may have some kind of knowledge and to how to get it to begin working again and then down the road if we want to try and push it I have all my routes established
 
Body has taken a major turn in the past week...I've been running the adex .25mg twice a week not sure if thats to much or not enough. Anyways i could barely keep it up the other day, haven't take adex since, and today I went completely soft while she was down there doing her thing. I couldn't get it to go back up. WIth manual stimulation I was hard again but once i stopped it just went down. I am stopping to adex right now to see if it helps. I'm confused a little because when I woke up this AM I was horny as could be..then while she was doing it it was almost like there was no feeling to it, it wasn't sensitive or anything. Been doing test e 250 1/2 cc every 7 days. I was seeing improvements in mood and libidio and over the past week felt almost emotionless didn't care about shit, became more isolate, and now this :( any thoughts?
 
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