FAKE TEST!, blood work proves it....right?

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builder90

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20 year old. first cycle. 400mg/ml Test E, taking 400mg per week, 2 shots of 200mg(half ml) a week. Havent really felt much at all, sometimes high sex drive (getting off 6 times 1 day), then sometimes low sex drive but mostly nothing much different from usual getting off (1-2 mayb 3) times a day. Girlfriend said mayb balls mightve shrunk a little, i didnt notice much, maybe acne, maybe alot of things but easily could be placebo nothing concrete. Also never really got much injection site pain soreness.

Im on my 5th week now, but I did my blood test last week, so just about after 4 weeks of the cycle.

Results:

Testostorone 18 nmol/L (8.3-29)
Free Test 39.8 pmol/L (25.0-120.0)

I'm not sure about converting this into the American measures, little help please?

Also liver and kidney, cholesterol were both a little elevated, enough to be mentioned, but always had slightly high liver, cholesterol readings for my age plus protein and eating more may have affected.

Anyway apparently both are normal according to the doctor. And I didnt get tested before hand, but Ive felt like ive always had a reasonable sex drive as explained earliar. So yeh, doctor spoke bad english and could be bias against roids, but i think we came to consensus that my test would be alot higher if the stuff was real.

So yeh, must be bunk gear right. My test levels MUST be higher by now if it was real, test levels should be high even after like 2 injections right?

SO FAAAKE?
 
You've already answered your own question in a sense. If you're 4 weeks into a cycle and you've gone to a doctor to have your bloodwork done and you both agree the gear must be bunk, what exactly are you looking for here? A MD is more credible than us in most instances. If you are just looking for us to agree, then I agree. The gear must be bunk or your test would be elevated much higher. As I said though, you already got the correct answer from your doctor. My test is so high when I'm on that it's off the chart when I have bloodwork done.
 
..and at 20 yr s of age your sex drive should be as is anyways..post up a pic of your gf..she 20 as well ???
 
sorry no pics of gf, wouldnt want you guys to make a mess.

I know i think its 95% fake...its just 2 major points right now.

1) my gf said she noticed my balls have gotten smaller a bit since like 2 weeks ago. personally i think MAYB, but very marginal. confusing..annouying wish she didnt say that.

2) people say test e is a long runnning ester and all that s***. I'm confused, when you say it takes awhile to kick in (+5weeks) does that mean for it to be in the body and seen in the the blood work OR to actually feel it. mayb the kick in along with test levels being higher will happen week 6.

I know im stretching it, just wanna be 100%..would appreciate help, did probably get screwed after all.
 
what gear is it? also what it means when they say it takes 4 weeks to kick in is befor you realy notice strength and change.
as soon as you inject the first shot it is in you and the body reacts to it it just takes a while to build up in the blood level becuase of the slow release.
it may be very under dosed gear or it may take you a while to feel it.
your in the 5ith week and only shooting 400mg. take this up to 600mg and give it 3 more weeks and make sure you eat lots. cuase if your not feeding the fire its going to be there but it's goinmg to smolder.
you'll get all the smoke and no fire.


so ist mein
 
when you say "as soon as you inject the first shot it is in you and the body reacts to it it just takes a while"

do you mean in terms of blood test levels or the feeling. i thought blood test levels revealed like after a couple shots.
 
it releases slow.

try to look at it like this.

400mg pw right if you do it once a week by the time you get your next shot the Test in your system will be at 200mg and then you shot again its now 600mg in the system and then folowing week it is 300mg shot again 700mg
350 750 375...... see how it builds up slowly over the time lines
when i said its in you right away it starts to be absorbed right after the first shot. the levels start to climb and drop its a roller coaster untill you get it leveled off.
 
ahok so my levels may have not levelled off yet, explaining the poor or 'normal' results. Really expected it to be higher then normal if it was real by this stage though. Ill do one more shot (only have tools for 1 more), maybe a bit extra and see how i feel extra. I just dont want to have to resupply my needles and the needle exchange for no reason.

IF i do shot tomorow how long can i wait before I can determine for sure if its real or not. Next shot is my 2nd of the 5th week. should i double dosage and go a full ML?
 
might aswell increase up to 600mg pw and keep shooting.
400mg is way low. 500-600 to start.
just stay the course and run this for 14 weeks. you seem like a late starter to me.
i'm the same way. and i have yet to find an oral to kick the cycle off that works.
i would bet your the same way.
 
are you sure CYTO. Ive explained how everything seems to not be working except MAYB ball size. It would involve a lot to continue the cycle at a higher dosage...gettin more needles at needle exchange, buying a new 10ml vial when i think i just blew alot of my money on the first vial.

God damnit, ive posted this on a few forums and got different opinions too. s*** sucks

btw cyto i emailed u, if you can be fu**** helping me thru that avenue
 
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builder90 said:
are you sure CYTO. Ive explained how everything seems to not be working except MAYB ball size. It would involve a lot to continue the cycle at a higher dosage...gettin more needles at needle exchange, buying a new 10ml vial when i think i just blew alot of my money on the first vial.

God damnit, ive posted this on a few forums and got different opinions too. s*** sucks

btw cyto i emailed u, if you can be fu**** helping me thru that avenue
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let me know its you when you email. and tell me what lab it is we can take it from there.
it very well could be under dosed enough to show signs of sides and testicular size decrease.

but i am sure that 400mg is on the low side. let talk further and get it sorted out.
 
we need three things asap.

1. pics of girlfriend
2. name of lab
3. pics of balls to judge atrophy(no homo)
 
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