Family Doc just called me................

[lee1092]

man i feel you when i was 19 i took a pro and the guy who gave it to me gave me some shitty pct that didnt work i was shut down for months and got gyno so i went to an endo and he lectured me on smoking weed which i hadnt done in years and then told me sorry your just going to have to live through it so i asked him what about clomid and nolva and he told me "oh no that wont do anything but make it worse" never went back to that asshole luckily i found a source and was able to do it my self but if i ever see him again im going to fuck that mother fucker up. Piece of shit was trying to teach me a lesson and all he did was make me live through hell for a few months

haha same here, I said hey what what letro he said, no no no thats for breast cancer

 

[2rude4u]

then why did my doc tell me "we don't know the long term effects of this"?
this is all weird man...
it's a power struggle between Anti testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) docs who practice mainstream medicine and PRO testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) docs...
This family doc told me..."I can do the same thing those testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) docs can do...but with anti depressants"
so...so weird man!!!!
Truly a sick cult of psychos!!!
I also don't feel proud of myself taking shots every week...
I think I'm in denial and trying to scape goat around it.

Simple... because you're doctor is an idiot!

Incase you didn't already know that, which I can't see how anyone couldn't, just refer to his quote ..."I can do the same thing those testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) docs can do...but with anti depressants"

Absolutely no doctor on the planet who knows just a little of what the fuck he is talking about, would ever make that statment.

You also need to man up and stop being a pussy. You don't feel proud of yourself taking shots every week? Please STFU... do you feel proud of being a small, flabby, weak, limp dicked wimp?

Make a decision already and stick to it. Your process of indecision and half-assed attempts to reinvent the wheel are going to get you nothing, but more misery. Either go full out PCT including Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or start testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). I don't care which... just pick one already!

 

[Chicago712]

it seems like expierenced members have told you the same thing over and over again but you insist on bringing up the same point...

please be clear and actually explain this moral dilemma of yours.

-are you butthurt your PCP wouldnt script you nolvadex or w.e you've mentioned
- are you scared to go BACK on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (from what you've said you've been on TRT)
- are you debating going on all different sorts of pills to try and fix a problem testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) will fix without a lot of the sides that anti deppresant/anxiety pills will give you..

you state its expensive but like others have started.. your in Canada and it sure as hell a lot cheaper then it would be for me to get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), and theres tons of UGL in canada that you can affordably buy enough cyp to stay good for a long enough time to always acquire more test...

 

[Alpin]

Ok....OK....
I hear you guys. I have more news for update from this DOC!!!
My mom had an appointment today with him(My whole family goes to him....lol) and I asked her to tell him to get me a requisition for blood work. Naturally my mom knows my situation. So she asked him for the requisition and he gave it to her and she asked: "are you going to help my son e.t.c., what's the problem with his T"?
He says this to her: "I don't think it's that much of a problem, I think he makes it worse than it is...he doesn't listen to me, he keeps telling me his Testosterone is low, but I don't think so, I can treat it with medication"....my mom told him "my son won't take any meds"...
he says: "I don't feel comfortable treating it, I referred him to a specialist"...
He told her "I obsessed too much with my T levels, and I'm scared"....
he said to her I'm "bringing the fatigue onto myself"...
He told her that "depression and anxiety bring fatigue not hormonal"
He says: "I'm not listening to him"....
I NEVER TOLD HIM I AM DEPRESSED
so already he is forming opinions.
As my mom was walking out of the office...secretary said "we would like to see your son in 2 weeks"....
I'm not going back there anytime soon.

 

[halfwit]

Yeah, he inferred you have depression because that's something he can treat without having to worry about testosterone. FYI: Depression is a leading symptom of low testosterone. I think you know what to do from here.

 

[Alpin]

Yeah, he inferred you have depression because that's something he can treat without having to worry about testosterone. FYI: Depression is a leading symptom of low testosterone. I think you know what to do from here.

I hear you...
I never told him I was depressed. He is to blame for everything with this testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) route...
cause he played this b.s. years ago when I complained of low energy and tiredness and he said it was "depression"....
I never told him I was depressed...
I had to ask for my own sleep study 3 years ago to find out I had severe sleep apnea...
then he says next appointment: "sorry"...
he's up to his old tricks again I see.
He can "treat" depression with his b.s. SSRI protocols....
therefore masking LOW T...
Anyone else smell his propaganda here?

 

[Alpin]

B.t.w.
I'm no sheeple....
It doesn't hurt that I let some of you bros on here know what is going on in the medical field.
He's just playing me and I'll tell you why....
last appointment I had with him he was saying: "great, this is a positive thing for you, looks like I will work"
He was referring to the clomid Study from the Lahey clinic I gave him and he was flipping through it....
now today he tells my mom the complete opposite of what he told me, that there is basically nothing wrong with me and that I am the cause pretty much and it's not a Testosterone issue...
Nice guy eh?
Shows you what weasels are out there treating people....
He said one thing to me and then goes behind my back saying the opposite....and that I am stubborn and don't take his medical advice that I don't have a T issue...

 

[Chicago712]

B.t.w.
I'm no sheeple....
It doesn't hurt that I let some of you bros on here know what is going on in the medical field.
He's just playing me and I'll tell you why....
last appointment I had with him he was saying: "great, this is a positive thing for you, looks like I will work"
He was referring to the clomid Study from the Lahey clinic I gave him and he was flipping through it....
now today he tells my mom the complete opposite of what he told me, that there is basically nothing wrong with me and that I am the cause pretty much and it's not a Testosterone issue...
Nice guy eh?
Shows you what weasels are out there treating people....
He said one thing to me and then goes behind my back saying the opposite....and that I am stubborn and don't take his medical advice that I don't have a T issue...

go see another doctor or if this is such a serious issue start your own blog somewhere about how doctors dont have your best interest at heart...

he gave you his medical opinion. if you don't like it i feel you should do what everyone has said either get on T or go to another doctor

 

[enzo321]

20 weeks of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from pinnacle or psl is less money than one Xbox game

Is that how you value your gear? I always value supplements in the form of steroids.

"You want me to pay x-price for x-preworkout? That's like two bottles of test".

 

[Megatron28]

I would be upset that he broke your patient/doctor confidentiality by talking about your treatment with your mother -- unless you gave him permission to do so.

 

[DreDay187]

I would be upset that he broke your patient/doctor confidentiality by talking about your treatment with your mother -- unless you gave him permission to do so.

Does Canada have its own form of HIPPA?

 

[halfwit]

Is that how you value your gear? I always value supplements in the form of steroids.

"You want me to pay x-price for x-preworkout? That's like two bottles of test".

Ohhhh shit. I just realized I do that too. LOL

Apollon, I believe it man. I know you're just venting because you can't believe someone with a professional degree would act that way, but he's very likely just trying to push you to fire him. Mooooooooooooooove on lil' doggeh!

 

[Alpin]

Ohhhh shit. I just realized I do that too. LOL

Apollon, I believe it man. I know you're just venting because you can't believe someone with a professional degree would act that way, but he's very likely just trying to push you to fire him. Mooooooooooooooove on lil' doggeh!

Get this...
my mom went to this family doc today and she was told by her sleep doctor that she needs a machine CPAP to sleep at night....
She goes into see him and he says to her: "your sleep apnea is mild" he then says: "do you have insurance, the machine is expensive you know"?
*NEWS FLASH*
$700 and change is covered for the CPAP machine by the Govt.
but he decides she doesn't need it, and says it's too expensive???
looks like he is trying to protect the Health Care systems finances...it's no secret the Province is in heavy debt...
He probably protecting the health care system so his paycheck don't fall apart...
an on top of that he offered my mom sleeping pills and told her he thinks it's insomnia not sleep apnea....
so what we have here is a doc going against another doc's(sleep doctor) diagnosis...
typical of him, he's an egomaniac.
B.T.W. anyone knows that any one who has sleep apnea is advised to reduce or eliminate their sedative meds...because it aggravates the condition.
But this guy is saying....ya go ahead take sleeping pills

 

[Alpin]

I would be upset that he broke your patient/doctor confidentiality by talking about your treatment with your mother -- unless you gave him permission to do so.

I never gave him permission. She was just to ask for a requisition from him for me...
he told her to tell me not to take ADEX...

 

[halfwit]

Get this...
my mom went to this family doc today and she was told by her sleep doctor that she needs a machine CPAP to sleep at night....
She goes into see him and he says to her: "your sleep apnea is mild" he then says: "do you have insurance, the machine is expensive you know"?
*NEWS FLASH*
$700 and change is covered for the CPAP machine by the Govt.
but he decides she doesn't need it, and says it's too expensive???
looks like he is trying to protect the Health Care systems finances...it's no secret the Province is in heavy debt...
He probably protecting the health care system so his paycheck don't fall apart...
an on top of that he offered my mom sleeping pills and told her he thinks it's insomnia not sleep apnea....
so what we have here is a doc going against another doc's(sleep doctor) diagnosis...
typical of him, he's an egomaniac.
B.T.W. anyone knows that any one who has sleep apnea is advised to reduce or eliminate their sedative meds...because it aggravates the condition.
But this guy is saying....ya go ahead take sleeping pills

Don't know how it works up North, but here in the US the sleep doctor prescribes a CPAP, not your GP/PCP. I have apnea and love my Darth Vader mask.

 

[bushleaguechew]

Is that how you value your gear? I always value supplements in the form of steroids.

"You want me to pay x-price for x-preworkout? That's like two bottles of test".

No. It was the first thing that popped into my head.



Drop this doctor already.

 

[Alpin]

Don't know how it works up North, but here in the US the sleep doctor prescribes a CPAP, not your GP/PCP. I have apnea and love my Darth Vader mask.

Well that is the thing bro....
the sleep doctor prescribed for my mom to use this machine and he intervenes to say: "no, it's too expensive and you're form of sleep apnea is mild". Just like he intruded in my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol saying: "no, it's long term effects are unknown, and I don't believe you need it, and I can do the same thing with antidepressants that the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doc can do"
Family doc went on to say to my mom: "sow a pocket on the back side of your shirt, put a tennis ball in there, this will teach you to sleep on your side"
Nice doc eh?

 

[Megatron28]

Well that is the thing bro....
the sleep doctor prescribed for my mom to use this machine and he intervenes to say: "no, it's too expensive and you're form of sleep apnea is mild". Just like he intruded in my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol saying: "no, it's long term effects are unknown, and I don't believe you need it, and I can do the same thing with antidepressants that the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doc can do"
Family doc went on to say to my mom: "sow a pocket on the back side of your shirt, put a tennis ball in there, this will teach you to sleep on your side"
Nice doc eh?

I'm not saying he should have intervened, but sleeping on your side is a viable treatment for mild sleep apnea. They sell pillows that don't let you flip over onto your back. The tennis ball pocket would be the home remedy version.

But I am sure you have already begun selecting your new family doctor so I'm not sure why you are still bitching about this guy. You've already moved on, right?

 

[Chicago712]

regardless of what is said to the OP there will be some sort of response invoking more dialogue..

if its not one thing, its another.... i'd really be interested in reading a blog of yours APOLLON if you ever decided to make one let me know

 

[Alpin]

regardless of what is said to the OP there will be some sort of response invoking more dialogue..

if its not one thing, its another.... i'd really be interested in reading a blog of yours APOLLON if you ever decided to make one let me know

I'll make one...
will you subscribe?
where do you want me to post it?