first cycle deca

asata

New member
Hello need advice

Age20
Wt270
Ht510
Bf?

Cycle deca 250 mg x week for 9 weeks
Not sure on post cycle therapy (pct) yet I now I should of known by now an I
Would appreciate any advice jus don't tell me about my age
Cus I'm allredy on da stuff so don waste ur time by tellin me
I should wait till I'm 25 pleas any other advise will be appreciated.
 
What are you already on? WHat are you taking and how long have you been taking it and how many cycles have you done before? Il help you but I goto say deca only does not sound good at all, reply back and we'l help you out
 
You need a few years and get your training and diet in order.
bro 5'10" 270.theres alot work IMO ahead of you before AAS comes in to play.

you need to learn to stop telling people that bro. he clearly knows he shouldnt be on anabolics at his age, but will continue to do so regardless. So, save comments like that, you beat a dead horse in every thread like that.

Also, as others have said you never run a deca only cycle. My first piece of truly useful advice for you would be to hold off cycling, until you learn more. Age aside, I want you to be incredibly well informed on the subject when you ultimately decide to put these compounds in your body. Be ready.
Asata, we need to roughly know your body fat. At 5' 10" 270 lbs, you are either incredibly muscular already or have considerable body fat. If it's the ladder, then you should not cycle until you get your body fat down as fat provides more estrogen dependent binding sites.
 
Tanks for the advice an I will stop den do I still hav two post cycle therapy (pct) or not and if I do wat should I do for post cycle therapy (pct) also how can I calculate my bf ?
 
you need to learn to stop telling people that bro. he clearly knows he shouldnt be on anabolics at his age, but will continue to do so regardless. So, save comments like that, you beat a dead horse in every thread like that.

Also, as others have said you never run a deca only cycle. My first piece of truly useful advice for you would be to hold off cycling, until you learn more. Age aside, I want you to be incredibly well informed on the subject when you ultimately decide to put these compounds in your body. Be ready.
Asata, we need to roughly know your body fat. At 5' 10" 270 lbs, you are either incredibly muscular already or have considerable body fat. If it's the ladder, then you should not cycle until you get your body fat down as fat provides more estrogen dependent binding sites.

WTF.....LOL

You told him exactly the same thing, just in different words.

There was nothing at all wrong with what Drew stated, I say the same thing lots of times as well.
 
Blah...blah, blah.

Is it OK if I post this......after all, I post it a lots on threads like this where the OP has no business what so ever thinking about or taking steroids.

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.

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What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (growth plates) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (voicebox) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.
 
WTF.....LOL

You told him exactly the same thing, just in different words.

There was nothing at all wrong with what Drew stated, I say the same thing lots of times as well.

I didnt say the same things in different words. Drew thinks the reason the OP shouldnt cycle is age. Beyond that I believe the reason the OP shouldnt cycle is his lack of time in the gym, as well as lack of information, less so the fact that he is 20.

He may decide to cycle at 20, and nothing you can say nor do will stop him, but at least if he's gonna cycle, I would prefer he run compounds with a thorough knowledge of anabolics and a foundation in lifting.
 
Ya so he really dont need no info then on a cycle, he needs other advice..... Why lead a horse to water if it aint thirsty...I mean this guy has potential to clean up natural by the sounds of his build or he is super fat. If he aint super fat then with his age he will be massive in 4 or 5 years should he then choose to do aas.. to the OP you are to young, you bf% is probably way to high, and you lack trainning, stay off aas till you get your shit together , then re evaluate<<<< I say that in every post to ... AND ????? Drewbolic reps comming your way....
 
!too young.~

Deca worst firect cycle ever~

Test Only should be the basis of your first 2 runs

dont forget PCT
 
I didnt say the same things in different words. Drew thinks the reason the OP shouldnt cycle is age. Beyond that I believe the reason the OP shouldnt cycle is his lack of time in the gym, as well as lack of information, less so the fact that he is 20.

He may decide to cycle at 20, and nothing you can say nor do will stop him, but at least if he's gonna cycle, I would prefer he run compounds with a thorough knowledge of anabolics and a foundation in lifting.

SHAP you are a vet on this board and always with solid advice for the guys.
My thinking was he's 270 at 20 years old asking for first cycle advice.That doesnt say to me 270 incredibly muscular.So im thinking the same as you,if he is an over weight 270 at 20 years old there is a lot of things like diet and training and health that has to be a priority before the idea of using AAS.
I know its like beating a dead hoarse sometime but a majority of first posters are IM 20 AND I THINK I WANT TO DO TREN,DO YOU GUYS THINK I NEED PCT?I dont want to turn anyone off to educating them self on enhancement but what are you supposed to say?
 
SHAP you are a vet on this board and always with solid advice for the guys.
My thinking was he's 270 at 20 years old asking for first cycle advice.That doesnt say to me 270 incredibly muscular.So im thinking the same as you,if he is an over weight 270 at 20 years old there is a lot of things like diet and training and health that has to be a priority before the idea of using AAS.
I know its like beating a dead hoarse sometime but a majority of first posters are IM 20 AND I THINK I WANT TO DO TREN,DO YOU GUYS THINK I NEED PCT?I dont want to turn anyone off to educating them self on enhancement but what are you supposed to say?

i agree completely. i just wanted to tell this guy something IN ADDITION to the aforementioned you're too young everyone else chips in. But yes, you are right.
 
Hehe if that dude was 270 at 5'10 and had a low body fat then forget the gear, he clearly wouldn't need it!
 
i agree completely. i just wanted to tell this guy something IN ADDITION to the aforementioned you're too young everyone else chips in. But yes, you are right.

these vets are giving solid advice.. the op needs a good diet and training reg.. not gear...

i'd sit this one out if i were you bud.... or any other where you feel something like that needs to be said..

not flaming or anything.. jmo...
 
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