reallittleguy said:At least it is test for a first cycle
outlawtas2 said:What's his Age/Stats
Yup sounds good. PCT/Training in check?
Tsaunders said:hes under my wing, of course. lol. Yeah post cycle therapy (pct) is good.
hes 5"11 210, 22 years old, I think he has the right weight to start gear.
Onswoll said:weight has nothing to do with whether someone should start doing steroids or not.
Onswoll said:weight has nothing to do with whether someone should start doing steroids or not.
outlawtas2 said:I wouldn't recommend someone who's 5'10 160lbs with 16% bf to use steroids...they need more training/diet experience.
Tsaunders said:of course it does
Onswoll said:Yeah, and why is that? obviously if a kid is 19yrs old weighing 130lbs, thats obviously not a good thing. care to elaborate on "of course it does"???
Onswoll said:exactly, you said it. training experience is the key, not how much a person weighs. no offence but diet experience is not key either. Because a diet can always change. A diet does not take yrs to figure out, unlike training.
Tsaunders said:basically what outlaw said, obviously you dont want a kid who weighs 150 at 5"10 using steroids, you want him to gain most of what he can naturally before taking the next step and juicing
outlawtas2 said:I agree w/ you. I see no reason why a guy who's 25 and 180lbs @ 11-12%BF shouldn't cycle if he really wants to. Diet experience isn't key, that can be changed - but diet dedication can't. Basically, if they can ensure that they are dedicated and mature when cycling the it's okay in my books.
outlawtas2 said:Oh no, I absolutely understand what you mean. But the difference you've been there - you know what it takes, you know you have to buy food, cook food and eat 24/7. I'm saying if someone has never done that in their life, what are the odds that they will all of a sudden get their shit together? I'm not saying that all of them won't, i'm sure some will be able to go from nothing to full dedication. I just think they have a greater chance if they've already put in some work naturally.