From an Old Bastard to all

[crazyfmike]

Recently some labs came back less then acceptable. My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) guy told me "come OFF right now: ALL THE WAY!!

Those are strong words from a guy making his way on selling me "TRT".

A cycle isn't everything, even of you're an IFBB Pro your health comes first. Let's at least hope so!!!

I am doing much better on my blood work taking a full panel E11D now. I'll be able to run a nice summer cycle. No more 19's/bloodmakers for me. Plenty can be done on Test levels of a 22 year old guy.

So if you guys ever think or rethink about coming OFF for a reason of health, just do it! I am off, lost a little water but feel great and know my values are good and getting better.

Tomorrow is another day

 

[jadakiss]

Hey mike happy u got off ur health is more important there is always another day to cycle but u have one life. Glad ur on this board brother u have been very valueable with ur knowledge on this site.

 

[bigherm2121]

Aww no more 19s. Well you wanna be healthy. Tren is nasty shit.

 

[crazyfmike]

Hey mike happy u got off ur health is more important there is always another day to cycle but u have one life. Glad ur on this board brother u have been very valueable with ur knowledge on this site.

Thanks man. Just trying to share my game and maybe save another guy from some shit.

 

[heavyiron]

What values were out of range brother?

 

[crazyfmike]

Aww no more 19s. Well you wanna be healthy. Tren is nasty shit.

Tren, Bold and Nan are off the table unless my #'s take some dramatic turn for the better. At my age my Primary, my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and other Veterans and myself included doubt I am some miracle guy.

Just keeping it real.

I can carry 230lbs lean weight on 285mgs Test. 230lbs on my skinny frame is pop'n.

I'll stack some Primo and Var this summer and take some pics.

 

[crazyfmike]

What values were out of range brother?

Hemo
Hema
Bun
RBC's were kicking my kidneys hard!

GFR was scary.

I donated blood that day, stopped my NPP/TPP cycle and cut my protein intake to 100g (was 300).

Also taking low dose aspirin at bedtime.

Taking bloods again tomorrow but staying OFF until at May 1st.

 

[bigherm2121]

Damn bro

 

[brother bundy]

This is the realest brother on ology.Where lucky to have this man here.

 

[Spongy]

haha, Zeek practically had a stroke himself when you gave us your numbers Glad things are better brother.

 

[MeatHead96]

Glad your smart and put health first. Good call.

 

[cashout]

While no further discussion is required because I feel Mike presented a compelling case, I do always wonder why in the heck guys in their 40s like me, and Mike for that matter, even contemplate the idea of running a cycle?

At our age, we have to consider the risk-to-return on that gamble and as far as I can tell, the prospect of 40 year old guys running cycles violates the risk principles of

1) Don't risk a lot for a little and
2) Don't risk more than you can afford to lose.

 

[Spongy]

just out of curiosity, how old were you during your last cycle? Do you consider a test blast while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) a cycle?

While no further discussion is required because I feel Mike presented a compelling case, I do always wonder why in the heck guys in their 40s like me, and Mike for that matter, even contemplate the idea of running a cycle?

At our age, we have to consider the risk-to-return on that gamble and as far as I can tell, the prospect of 40 year old guys running cycles violates the risk principles of

1) Don't risk a lot for a little and
2) Don't risk more than you can afford to lose.

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

good post brother. needs to be said

 

[cashout]

just out of curiosity, how old were you during your last cycle? Do you consider a test blast while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) a cycle?

Last cycle was 17 years ago when I competed in the Nationals - I was 24 years old.

Yes a blast on HRT is cycling.

 

[GoldCity]

im very thankful to have people on here with so much knowledge and common sense!

 

[Spongy]

Last cycle was 17 years ago when I competed in the Nationals - I was 24 years old.

Yes a blast on HRT is cycling.

that's incredible man. I've been following your restart and a lot of your posts. Lots of knowledge right here fellas! You have a great build, and I'm that much more impressed by the fact you've kept it with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) levels and diet! Impressive sir!

 

[ironpower]

so i guess the window of opportunity to run a cycle safely is between about 26 to 40

 

[heavyiron]

I get regular labs myself. When RBC's and Hematocrit is high I give blood. If my liver is stressed I jump off orals. Had to do both recently. But I still run 500mg T per week. I will get labs again next month and see where I'm at.

 

[MeatHead96]

While no further discussion is required because I feel Mike presented a compelling case, I do always wonder why in the heck guys in their 40s like me, and Mike for that matter, even contemplate the idea of running a cycle?

At our age, we have to consider the risk-to-return on that gamble and as far as I can tell, the prospect of 40 year old guys running cycles violates the risk principles of

1) Don't risk a lot for a little and
2) Don't risk more than you can afford to lose.

This is a good point. This is coming from a guy who hates on younger people for juicing and that they should do they're "natty time" first. So what, 20-25 years of natty time and then cycle when your older and have more health risks? Explain that to me mike.