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New here and wanted to know what u guys thought of this.

My doc had done some blood levels and told me that i have Low-Normal test levels (302). He also told me that my LH and TSH is in the same range, not low but off. So he gave me HCG .25 2x /week and Cyp .5 e5d.

So here is my Q: could i take

sunday-hcg
monday-cyp
tuesday off
wed- hcg
Thurs-cyp
friday-off
sat-off

would i be taking to much cyp a week if i did this or would it be a more stable level through out the week. I hear from all the post that people experience highs and lows when the test injection is not consistant.

thanks!
 
16, it appears that you got a good doc that has started you off on a solid protocol. Don't jack it up by changing it before you even start. Test-C shot e5d is not going to give you any lows, e5d is good.

You change it and your test levels will be much higher and once you do your next blood test your doc will lower your dose and then your screwed.
 
thanks, i just want to make sure i am doing the right way. Like i said, I hear all the horror stories on all the boards and i cant go through all that BS about not taking enough.

So, i could i form a pattern of taking both?

I like taking the HCG on sunday because i work allllllllll day, plus my hcg is with b-12 too. So i would take the HCG on sunday and wed, no harm right?
The cyp if i took it on monday my next dose would be when, Friday, right?

thanks for the help
 
E5d ...you won't be taking it on the same days each week. If you take it on Monday then 5 days later is Saturday, so on and so forth. HCG on Sunday and Wed should be fine. You might need to keep up with this on a calendar.
 
i do E5D so i use my Google account calendar and its synced with my phone (galaxy nexus) and i just get the notification on days i need to take it. there's no way i would be able to constantly keep track of the days in my head.
 
heck brother,the 5 years ive been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) none of my Endo's have ever even considered putting me on HCG,and my nurts got to be the size of soybeans,so i had to fix that myself
 
My .02 is that your starting protocol seems solid enough so I wouldn't make ANY changes until you have a few weeks under your belt and 1-2 blood tests. There's a lot of moving parts so making changes too soon just further complicates things.

FWIW, I inject my test every 84 hours IM and my HCG EOD sub Q. My test seems to hover right around 1200 with blood drawn the day of my next injection.

E2, for the most part, is usually around 15-25 taking .25mg of Adex EOD.

Good luck.
 
thanks for ur advice! I will not change anything from what my doc has said. I was just thinking NOT doing. I am going to see him today and wil ask him about the IM instead of subq for the cyp.
 
I would ask about SubQ on the test, but only because I rarely here of anyone injecting test SubQ. I have read lots of opinions on HCG SubQ vs. IM and opinions seem to be more split regarding HCG.

I'm sure someone can provide a more scientific explanation of each injection method than me. My guess is your doctor will tell you SubQ Test injections lead to slower release and more stable levels, but that's just a guess.

There's plenty of discussion on the intree net about SubQ vs. IM if you have the time. At my injection frequency of both, it probably doesn't even matter a whole lot.

Regardless, there's nothing wrong with learning why your doc does what he does.
 
i dont like to do test subQ. i have done it before (not on purpose) and it formed a hard lump and took a while to be absorbed.
 
Bullseye Forever said:
heck brother,the 5 years ive been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) none of my Endo's have ever even considered putting me on HCG,and my nurts got to be the size of soybeans,so i had to fix that myself
Click to expand...

My balls are so fkn big right now I went to the movies last night and had to buy 2 extra tickets.


:laugh:
 
tell me about, that HCG does great things to the boys!!!

So my Doc told me yesterday that he would prefer me to inject IM but there are several studies he saw that subq gives very good results BUT IM has better absorption.

IDK if i can jab myself in the IM!!!! its freaking sucks! could u guys give my some advice to help me. He stuck me yesterday and there was no pain but I have to do it myself now and there is no way i will be able to do that without freaking out or with pain, I KNOW I am a baby. Once i get acustom with it, it will be no prob!!!!!
 
16, it really is no big deal. A new 23g needle and you won't feel anything more than you do when you inject subq, I have to look in the mirror to make sure mine is all the way in, because I can't feel it at all!
 
hoy crap!

i just used a 25 G and went in fast and easy i thought it was one of the movie set needle that the tip retracks, hahahahahh.

But i am still having trouble getting the test out of the bottle. It seems like its just to thick of an oil and i have to let gravity fill the needle up, but then it an est. not on the money with.5 cc.

tell if i am doing something wrong:

pul back needle to .5
inject the needle to bottle while the bottle is upright
turn needle and bottle horizontal
inject the .5 of air in bottle
turn bottle upside down.........
slowly pull


but that does not do it

anything wrong?
 
This is why people get interchangeable needles/syringes/whatever. Draw with an 18g. Switch needle to 23/25g then pin. Much easier. The smaller the needle the more time it takes to get the oil out usually
 
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