Helladrol , N2Guard , HCGenerate and AMS Mass Drops / Epi 1 Test

smoky370

smoky370

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CYCLE
1-4 Helladrol - 1 capsule 3 times a day spread out morning, noon, and night.
1-4 Forged Liver Support - 1 capsule 2 times a day morning and night.
1-4 HCGenerate - 5 capsules a day split up
1-4 N2Guard - 7 capsules a day 4 in am 4 in pm * (4 hours after Helladrol dosing )
2-4 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on chest 2 times a day morning and night.

PCT
4-8 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on chest 2 times a day morning and night.
4-8 Post Cycle Support by AI - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
4-8 AROM-X liquid by AMS - 2 doses a day 8 hours apart.
Testo Fuel (natural test boost) will be started at beginning of PCT as well.

Ligavar (joint supplement) , Multi Vitamin, Whey and Casein also PCT will Have Super Charge Extreme 4.0 Pre workout added into it to keep up with intensity and get some creatine in there.

****This is going to go into my current cycle of AMS Mass Drops and EPI 1 Test , both non methyl PH's. I would like to start the helladrol the last 4 weeks and get maximum gains out of this cycle, just hope everything will get here in time. So what you guys think?
 
smoky370 said:
CYCLE
1-4 Helladrol - 1 capsule 3 times a day spread out morning, noon, and night.
1-4 Forged Liver Support - 1 capsule 2 times a day morning and night.
1-4 HCGenerate - 5 capsules a day split up
1-4 N2Guard - 7 capsules a day 4 in am 4 in pm * (4 hours after Helladrol dosing )
2-4 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on chest 2 times a day morning and night.

PCT
4-8 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on chest 2 times a day morning and night.
4-8 Post Cycle Support by AI - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
4-8 AROM-X liquid by AMS - 2 doses a day 8 hours apart.
Testo Fuel (natural test boost) will be started at beginning of PCT as well.

Ligavar (joint supplement) , Multi Vitamin, Whey and Casein also PCT will Have Super Charge Extreme 4.0 Pre workout added into it to keep up with intensity and get some creatine in there.

****This is going to go into my current cycle of AMS Mass Drops and EPI 1 Test , both non methyl PH's. I would like to start the helladrol the last 4 weeks and get maximum gains out of this cycle, just hope everything will get here in time. So what you guys think?
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I replied in your other thread about this cycle
 
Once I get my stuff I was thinking of logging my progress since this is known to give good results. I think it would benefit myself and maybe others down the road . I know there is a lot of experience here on this site and good feedback so most likely will.
 
Well the Hdrol isn't as harsh as others such as SD and will not completely shut me down which a lot of peoples blood work shows not saying that everyone is the same at all here but thats why I went with the Hdrol. I have a good source but if I was going to get a SERM I would have just gone and got the real shit, reason being is that I don't want to risk it being on deployment are mail gets rifled through a little more then usual so fuck that noise.I have seen many cycles ran successfully with otc pct with blood work to show it so once again i know every one is different but i feel confident that it will suffice. I want to run it 6 weeks but was thinking since I am going to use OTC PCT that 4 weeks would be better and also the fact that this will be going into the last 4 weeks of a 8 week PH cycle with non methyl products (epi1 test and mass drops). If the more experienced users think that 6 or even 5 weeks would be o.k and obviously more beneficial I am all for it just want to do it as right as I can with this OTC PCT.
 
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Smoky I would run it 6 weeks @100mg for sure, I didnt start seeing real gains until week 4, you are going to miss out on the best part of it by running it 4 weeks. I do not have a Serm in my PCT either and so far seems to be recovering decent. I took 50mg morning 50mg before training.

If you are going to be using n2guard I would drop the liver support as n2guard is more than enough, have also seen many things that show too much liver support to negatively effect absorption of the compounds. Def. get a log up
 
I ran forma 3 pumps twice everyday, should be enough for 10 weeks or so if you are wondering
 
Waiting for some badass SARMS to come in from Sarms Search, will be using GW and Ostra for a few weeks, but right now my OTC PCT consists of Forged PCT, Hcgenerate, DAA Powder, Forma. I also upped the dosage for creatine and upped my cals to try and keep as much mass as I can...I ended at 203lbs, that was a couple weeks ago, I weighed in at 201-202 yesterday.
 
Alright 6 weeks at 100 it is, def. not going to miss out on the sweet spot of the cycle thats for damn sure! The Forged Liver Support will move to PCT and N2Guard will stay the same. As for the Forma just start at the beginning of the cycle or wait a week or 2? Good to see that your PCT with OTC kept those gains thats what I like to see since I basically will be running the same shit. As for the HCGenerate you recommend using it during PCT or was that just b.c you were waiting on it, I think I want to keep it where it's at but just looking for some more opinions.
 
smoky370 said:
Alright 6 weeks at 100 it is, def. not going to miss out on the sweet spot of the cycle thats for damn sure! The Forged Liver Support will move to PCT and N2Guard will stay the same. As for the Forma just start at the beginning of the cycle or wait a week or 2? Good to see that your PCT with OTC kept those gains thats what I like to see since I basically will be running the same shit. As for the HCGenerate you recommend using it during PCT or was that just b.c you were waiting on it, I think I want to keep it where it's at but just looking for some more opinions.
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I actuall kept it there because I was running a log for N2bm, either way would work. On cycle would help promote natty test levels staying up, in PCT you would most likely be somewhat shut down and would jumpstart so to speak. I think thats a good idea with the liver support, the forma I started in the very beginning. 3 pumps morning and 3 at night.

Im assuming youre bulking?
 
Yeah alright that's what I figured , I will keep the HCGenerate where it's at and as for the forma I'll just run that how you did since that will be enough for 10 weeks as you said. And yeah bulking up this cycle , going to try and put on 20lbs I know thats a lot to ask for especially when I'm not able to go out and buy the foods I need/want but it's a goal and I will be doing everything I can to obtain it. Thanks for the help our cycles are pretty damn identical and you had some killer gains, getting excited to start up! Log will be going up soon.
 
Alright here it is should be good to go in the next week , let me know what you think.

Cycle
1-4 Mass Drops (AMS)
1-4 EPI 1 Test (AMS)
1-6 helladrol 100/100/100/100/100/125
2-6 Hcgenerate
1-6 n2guard
1-10 fish oil
1-10 Multi Vitamin
1-10 Ligavar (Joint Support)
1-10 forma stanzol
1-10 Taurine

*Whey and Casein will be supplemented as well throughout entire cycle

PCT
7-10 Arom-X (AMS)
7-10 Post Cycle Support
6-10 Testo Fuel (natural test booster)
7-10 Forged Liver Support
7-10 Pre Workout

Dosing
HCGenerate-4caps =5weeks (150 total)
N2Guard-5 caps= 6 weeks (210 total)
Helladrol-4caps x 6 weeks=168 (180 total)
Forged Liver support-2xED (60 total)
Forma Stanzol-3 pumps 2xED
Taurine-as needed*

Ingredients
Arom-X - The three natural ingredients: Ellagic Acid (standardized 90%), Resveratrol (standardized 95%) and 7,8 Benzoflavone are the most efficient compounds available to both legitimately inhibit aromatase (conversion from testosterone to estrogen) and to block estrogen, which works at the receptor level to increase LH (Luteinizing Hormone) production.

Testo Fuel- Oyster Extract, Ginseng, Fenugreek, Vitamin D, D-aspartic Acid, Magnesium, Vitamin B6

Ligavar- Glucosamine and Chondroitin, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), Hyaluronic Acid, Boswellia Serrata,Calcium, Cissus Quadran-Gularis Extract 4:1, Ginger Root Extract 8:1, White Willow Bark Extract, Cayenne
 
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The only thing I'd do is move the hcgenerate to the last 4 weeks being on instead of the first 4 weeks.
 
I was wondering about that and figured it might be good to use on cycle to try and mitigate atrophy and shutdown so PCT might require less recovery, just my thoughts but if it's best to use for PCT I will move it.
 
smoky370 said:
Alright here it is should be good to go in the next week , let me know what you think.

Cycle
1-4 Mass Drops (AMS)
1-4 EPI 1 Test (AMS)
1-6 helladrol 100/100/100/100/100/125
1-4 Hcgenerate
1-6 n2guard
1-10 fish oil
1-10 Multi Vitamin
1-10 Ligavar (Joint Support)
1-10 forma stanzol
1-10 Taurine

*Whey and Casein will be supplemented as well throughout entire cycle

PCT
7-10 Arom-X (AMS)
7-10 Post Cycle Support
6-10 Testo Fuel (natural test booster)
7-10 Forged Liver Support
7-10 Pre Workout

Dosing
HCGenerate-4caps =5weeks (150 total)
N2Guard-5 caps= 6 weeks (210 total)
Helladrol-4caps x 6 weeks=168 (180 total)
Forged Liver support-2xED (60 total)
Forma Stanzol-3 pumps 2xED
Taurine-as needed*

Ingredients
Arom-X - The three natural ingredients: Ellagic Acid (standardized 90%), Resveratrol (standardized 95%) and 7,8 Benzoflavone are the most efficient compounds available to both legitimately inhibit aromatase (conversion from testosterone to estrogen) and to block estrogen, which works at the receptor level to increase LH (Luteinizing Hormone) production.

Testo Fuel- Oyster Extract, Ginseng, Fenugreek, Vitamin D, D-aspartic Acid, Magnesium, Vitamin B6

Ligavar- Glucosamine and Chondroitin, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), Hyaluronic Acid, Boswellia Serrata,Calcium, Cissus Quadran-Gularis Extract 4:1, Ginger Root Extract 8:1, White Willow Bark Extract, Cayenne
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Much better man. 6wks is key, at the 4wk mark hella really gets going.

Id consider a sarm in pct. osta would work great.
 
I'm going to spread the HC Generate out to 5 weeks and will start it weeks 2-6 (just made the edit) thanks for pointing that out. And yes I'll be posting up a log as soon as my shit gets here , getting anxious over here!
 
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