Hi, why do people say this?

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R.Hill1996

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Hi, I have been reading about steroids for more than a year now and I still can't find some answers so I'm asking you, hoping to find the answers. Some people say that you shouldn't do any circle if you didn't reach your natural limit yet or if you are not heavy enough or not able to lift heavy enough. I guess they say that because if didn't reach the natural limit without the use of any steroid, you might end up losing the gains did during the circle and I'm only 150 pounds, 14% bf but that is because I had a surgery on my legs last year and I didn't workout for nearly 6 months! So when I started lifting (18) I was 190 pounds and 25+ bf then went to 165 pounds 15 bf in one year and then had the surgery (6 months off) due to the injury did while playing football and then I did a clean cut of 4 months as I ended up being skinny fat during the time off so I'm now 150 pounds 14% bf and about to turn 21. All this should prove that I know how to diet properly and that I should be able to keep the gains did during the circle (test e only, 500 mg/week) , once I come off with proper dieting and proper pct.
Do you think I should go forward or do I need to learn more?
 
I understand I need to learn more which I will but can you please explain me why I need to be older IF I check my natural testerone levels and they are the same during months?
 
second thing is you need to eat. at your weight of 150 pounds its all about diet, diet and more diet.
 
I think it's pretty safe to assume that if you don't know the difference between a cycle, and a circle, you're not knowledgeable enough to be taking steroids.
 
OP that's all a part of knowing what doing steroids is all about. You don't know what they do so you don't understand why we say what we say.

I real simple terms so you night understand. Your body is still developing / growing until approx. 25 . If you shut it down too early in your growth it may not restart. Again in SIMPLE terms this might srew you up for life.

Start reading and you will get to know more.
 
So here is why if your under 200 pound and you couldn't eat to grow without steroids you won't grow with them it's not just eat a bunch of calories and go to the gym and take steroids. It take years to learn how to train right and to tweak a diet. If you did a cycle not you might put on 20 pounds but it would be all water and you would loose it when you came off the cycle.

It isn't easy eating enough to build while on cycle. Please listen to everyone and focus on a professional diet program and work threw a training platue.
 
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^^^^^ spot on diet is king when it comes to making gains
The only part im no with is the 200 pound mark some guys are just blessed with shit genetics 34 inch waist and bitch wrists for me im about 160 natty at 5'11 naturally shit build
Now im sitting at 208 pounds a few cycles under my belt and literally look like a different person i coudnt of done that with out the vitamin S
 
To young to risk damaging or FAILING to restart ur HPTA should you cycle.
Too young and impatient to learn more and ask advanced questions like-
PCT ?
Ai s ?
Gyno ?
BWork s more than test level s.

U read 1 sentence a week for 1 year. If you d read in depth about AAS for 1 gd month you d not have opened with the intro you did but I m glad you did..

Finally and most importantly--Food intake MUST be adeguate and of PROPER quality to build MUSCLE not just depend on AAS hold water and glycogen.
Do you have ANY IDEA of the amount of $ and time I spend in the grocery stores and cooking to maintain 210 ? At 10 % fat give or take .75.???
I ll tell you.
150.00 -165.00 every 6-8 day s that s 600.oo to 700.00 for ME ALONE and I buy and cook 95 of my meal s. That s to MAINTAIN.

This is not rocket science but it is a way of life..are you ready to get bigger and STAY BIGGER ?

I think not...not yet, but please stay learn and we'll feed you----------food tip s then supplement s and then guide you into the dark side young Danielson Skywalker..
 
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right on the nail here from the boss man... steroids do not defy the laws of physics
Dreaded Pirate Roberts said:
So here is why if your under 200 pound and you couldn't eat to grow without steroids you won't grow with them it's not just eat a bunch of calories and go to the gym and tame steroids. It take years to learn how to train right and to tweak a diet. If you did a cycle not you might put on 20 pounds but it would be all water and you would loose it when you came off the cycle.

It isn't easy eating enough to build while on cycle. Please listen to everyone and focus on a professional diet program and work threw a training platue.
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So there you have it OP. Pretty much the same from all the guys who have been around for a LONG time. Listen man I am using my original weight belt and it is 37 years old and Teutonic is 53 years old and was lifting before he was potty trained :laugh:, I didn't start until I was 29-30 years old so my age was G2G and produced 3 kids during that time on Steroids. You start now and you may not have a family. Who knows but I told you Russian Roulette for you. Don't pull the trigger now and shoot your dick off....

I will ask you to stay with us, start reading and ask us more Q's as to what you do not understand in your reading. WE do want to help and BB n PL with AAS is a whole way of LIFE.

Good luck.
 
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:laugh::laugh:Lol Russian roulette for you . Dont pull the trigger now and shoot your dick off.....

That is the funniest thing you have ever said mike you just made my morning
 
Thank you for your answers guys, you are amazing! So the two key points I'm missing are the diet and the natural testerone production. For the first (I know it might sound strange) I know how to diet as after the recovery I lost 8% bf in few months, eating the right macros, without losing much strenght and I'm willing to do the cycle only because I want to make everything quicker. For the second point I'm not too sure as I know it depends from person to person so I can't tell if my body is still growing or not but I will have two words with my doctor and the endocrinologist to find out if my endocrine system is still growing or not. If I find out that I AM still growing, I will be back in this forum in 2/3 years :).
 
blakey said:
^^^^^ spot on diet is king when it comes to making gains
The only part im no with is the 200 pound mark some guys are just blessed with shit genetics 34 inch waist and bitch wrists for me im about 160 natty at 5'11 naturally shit build
Now im sitting at 208 pounds a few cycles under my belt and literally look like a different person i coudnt of done that with out the vitamin S
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Here is the problem if you have to be on cycle to be 208 and you can't keep that after 2 cycles you haven't done enough research and you should reassess what you are doing.
 
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