How quickly does bloat occur?

[MN87]

Ok, started first cycle Monday. Shot 100mg test prop into quad at 3 pm Monday and 100mg again @ 3pm yesterday (Wednesday, into my delt).

I weighed 194 when I started on Monday. Woke up yesterday at 195... and today at 199... right now I'm 207/208... da fuq??

I know my body and I never bloat up like this no matter what I eat... hell I wasn't even properly hydrated today.

My abs are less visible and my strength isn't noticeably different... not yet at least. I'm not necessarily complaining, because I still have a sexy ass face and that's all that matters... but still. Plus I figure if I'm bloated it means my stuff is kicking in (its PEA for what its worth). Is this normal? How quickly do you guys bloat up on cycle (on test prop)?

Haven't used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) yet either.

 

[noobmuscle]

I always use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) brother. To me, it may be the difference in several pounds of total gain but at least I know what I do gain will be lbm. That is nuts! Damn. I hav ebeen thinking about ordering some PEA myself. I have heard a lot of good reviews on another board.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

ok so test is test as everyone says this. However a lot of people say that prop will put on the least amount of water retention. If your diet is in check (stay away from the sodium) then there really will be minimal water retention

 

[crazyfmike]

Since I've been using PEA I ask myself if all the gear I was doing for years was under dosed.

Bro the shit jacks me up same way FAST.

Watch your sodium, sugars and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) might be best for your goals.

 

[China_Wall]

no AI? well if that's the case u deserve the bloat, sorry for being blunt bro.

U said u weren't properly hydrated, that could make your body hold water very fast.... 12lbs in less than a week, hard to believe it's the test already, but could be.. and is water/fat for sure. Get your diet in check, and drink more water.

 

[Harnold]

that much weight that fast sounds more like your body is dehydrated and holding onto water, or your sodium intake is whack. get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) man, and then get your doc to check you if that doesn't work. that shit doesn't sound right.

 

[MN87]

Diet is clean bro, I was at eating at maintenance pre-cycle and actually added more cardio in since cycle began. Wasn't expecting to see myself retain so quickly... but at least that means the stuff's kicking in.

I'll see how my body reacts over the next few days to see if today was some sorta strange anomaly, but probably adding an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) real soon.

 

[MN87]

^^ Yeah, I'll be honest, I've been hydrating like a horse since I started Monday, but I had an MCAT today and was outta commission from like 7-2/3, during which time I couldn't really hydrate... oh and it was 99 degrees out today too.

I'll keep y'all updated. Again diet has stayed the same as it was pre-cycle, clean and if anything only added cardio.

 

[Matt0071]

no AI? well if that's the case u deserve the bloat, sorry for being blunt bro.

U said u weren't properly hydrated, that could make your body hold water very fast.... 12lbs in less than a week, hard to believe it's the test already, but could be.. and is water/fat for sure. Get your diet in check, and drink more water.

Why people give hard times if they dont run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a Test Only Cycle is beyond me
I never run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on a Test Only cycle, just follow up on post cycle therapy (pct) after a 10-12 week run, and if sides come along i just run 10mg of nolv throughout my cycle, now if i was stacking forsure i would run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a cycle, but 300-500mg of test weekly is highly unlikly to get gyno or bad sides!

 

[China_Wall]

Why people give hard times if they dont run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a Test Only Cycle is beyond me
I never run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on a Test Only cycle, just follow up on post cycle therapy (pct) after a 10-12 week run, and if sides come along i just run 10mg of nolv throughout my cycle, now if i was stacking forsure i would run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a cycle, but 300-500mg of test weekly is highly unlikly to get gyno or bad sides!

seems u missed the point bro... the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in this case would help with the bloating issue

and as for u waiting til sides come along... why not just run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your cycles to prevent them from happening, instead of waiting for them to happen

 

[ozzyozzy21]

seems u missed the point bro... the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in this case would help with the bloating issue

and as for u waiting til sides come along... why not just run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your cycles to prevent them from happening, instead of waiting for them to happen

Much respect for you China, you know way more than me, but isn't the point of running a test only cycle FIRST TIME to see how your body reacts? I'd say have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand in case this happens, and I'd suggest it in this spot, but I'd do the same as OP and NOT run it from the get-go so I'll know how my body reacts

 

[Matt0071]

seems u missed the point bro... the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in this case would help with the bloating issue

and as for u waiting til sides come along... why not just run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your cycles to prevent them from happening, instead of waiting for them to happen

To each there own on Aromatase inhibitor (AI), i guess i am just old school when it comes to Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but when i am running test only cycles i personally just run Test and never had an issues at 400-500mg/week even with bloating unless your sodium intake and diet is way outta wack it cause's alot of issues!

 

[MN87]

Turns out I'm back to semi-normal weight... about 4 pounds more 'bloated' than when I started, which is whatever.

Guess it really must have just been dehydration. Thanks to whoever mentioned that, it seems so counter-intuitive to me to think that dehydration would actually make you HEAVIER.

That being said, I know my body is definitely prone to bloating, I'm very carb and sodium sensitive in general, so I assume I will start holding a bit more soon... and to think that I'm only at 350mg test/wk right now.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

drink a gallon or two a day, watch your sodium and take your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and you'll be fine!

 

[MN87]

Bumping this one more time to update... so yeah, it's definitely bloat from the test. Will add an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) now that I know what it's from.

That being said, I started my cycle a week ago on Monday. I don't mean to sound impatient, so I apologize if it sounds like I am... but bear in mind I'm a noob, so I really don't know what to expect/when to expect it either way. So my question is: at what point should I expect to see strength gains from the prop or the var?

 

[THE GREEK]

PINNACLE PROP.......1st time I've taken an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at the beginning of a cycle.....EVER....up 15lbs in two weeks. It hit like a freight train. The last time i bounced like that was about 1990 with DECA and SUS pre-loads from Mexico (ouch).... I'm actually thinking i'm gonna have to back the dosage down a little and slow this train down.

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

Bumping this one more time to update... so yeah, it's definitely bloat from the test. Will add an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) now that I know what it's from.

That being said, I started my cycle a week ago on Monday. I don't mean to sound impatient, so I apologize if it sounds like I am... but bear in mind I'm a noob, so I really don't know what to expect/when to expect it either way. So my question is: at what point should I expect to see strength gains from the prop or the var?

With it being PEA gear, and depending on your body, you should see strength ANY time!!!! Alot about strength though has to do with diet!!! You can be on 500mg tp a week and get weaker if you are eating 1200 cals a day!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Cannot get stronger if the protein and cals aren't there to support it!!! Never saw your DIET posted so don't know what is going on there!!!

PEA Prop and Pinnacle Prop are one in the same so to speak. And when I take my first shot of 100mg prop 6 hours later I feel it in a major way and in a week my strength is up quite a bit at 350mg per week!!!! Things hit me FAST though. I've seen guys take up to 2 weeks to really really get going on tp!!!!
So compare it to my 6 hour span. I feel prop 6 hours after I hit it, my dick touches my forehead and will not stop!!!! My endurance in the gym is up, I actually feel a bit wired. Pumps will be a BIT more intense, just after 6 hours, of course 5 days into the prop the pumps are much more significant!!!! But I can feel it in 6 hours, strength in about a week or 6 days. So if it took you a whole day to start getting the random wood and horneyness, then you might look for strength around 10-12 days maybe.
Also depending on your injection site, the gear acts faster and slower in some sites versus others!!!!!

 

[josh223]

You mentioned you did not drink much water today. Bloating is your body holding on to water. Basic chemistry bro lol

 

[MN87]

With it being PEA gear, and depending on your body, you should see strength ANY time!!!! Alot about strength though has to do with diet!!! You can be on 500mg tp a week and get weaker if you are eating 1200 cals a day!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Cannot get stronger if the protein and cals aren't there to support it!!! Never saw your DIET posted so don't know what is going on there!!!

PEA Prop and Pinnacle Prop are one in the same so to speak. And when I take my first shot of 100mg prop 6 hours later I feel it in a major way and in a week my strength is up quite a bit at 350mg per week!!!! Things hit me FAST though. I've seen guys take up to 2 weeks to really really get going on tp!!!!
So compare it to my 6 hour span. I feel prop 6 hours after I hit it, my dick touches my forehead and will not stop!!!! My endurance in the gym is up, I actually feel a bit wired. Pumps will be a BIT more intense, just after 6 hours, of course 5 days into the prop the pumps are much more significant!!!! But I can feel it in 6 hours, strength in about a week or 6 days. So if it took you a whole day to start getting the random wood and horneyness, then you might look for strength around 10-12 days maybe.
Also depending on your injection site, the gear acts faster and slower in some sites versus others!!!!!

Yeah I guess I might just be one of those slow responders. At this point 2 weeks and on seems to be the consensus. So I'll hope to see them kick in after the 2nd or 3rd week or so.

Diet is my usual cutting diet that I've been using for ages with success... right now I'm only slightly below maintenance (250 under). If the cycle adds some mass on thats great but that's not my primary goal, just tryna get stronger whilst cutting.

 

[bigjfd]

Same here, (pea) and retaining a lot of water!! Diet in check, 1.5-2 gallons of water a day and limited sodium intake. Got a-dex on the way!!!