How should i cycle?

[hambone2]

Ok here is the deal i have a supplier that i think can get me anything... my problem i dont know what to use i currently have 2 12week cycles of test 250 but have not started any yet i would like to gain mass but along with it stay somewhat lean! i have done tons of reserch but just dont understand plz help! give me week by week what i should take to acomplish about a 15 pound gain and some good muscle size i do play sports so i dont wanna be a block.

IM:21 years old
Weight:206
Diet: eat healthy and alot of it
Body fat %:about 13%

Thankyou for helping

 

[hambone2]

My 1st cycle, HOW AM I DOING?

I am 21 years old weigh 206 and 6'1" and 13% body fat, Workout:Mon.Chest and frontshoulders/Tue :Tricepts/Wed.off/Thur:Back and shoulders/Friday:Bicepts and forarms/Sat:Legs lower back/ Sun:abs .......All 5 sets of 6-8 reps heavy

I curently just started my 1st cycle i am taking Test 250 a 12 week cycle and im shooting 1cc a week on mon. I have nolvadex but am not taking it not sure when to start it i am only on my first week my goal is to gain a somewhat lean 15 to 20 pounds in a cycle..let me know what you think? Thanks guys

and critisism is wanted help me do it better.

 

[roidedsurfbum]

So you're doing 250 pw? I'm guessing you have the nolva on hand to prevent gyno...what's your PCT look like?

Welcome to the forum man, keep the log going and let us know how you do with your dose. I'm easily not the first to say it but your diet will dictate what kinds of gains you make and what you're likely to keep so check out the Diet forum and do some reading.

 

[hambone2]

So you're doing 250 pw? I'm guessing you have the nolva on hand to prevent gyno...what's your PCT look like?

Welcome to the forum man, keep the log going and let us know how you do with your dose. I'm easily not the first to say it but your diet will dictate what kinds of gains you make and what you're likely to keep so check out the Diet forum and do some reading.

What do u mean 250pw? and yeah im working on keeping a clean diet! as for the pct i was wanting to ask around and see what ppl think would be the best for me? any ideas? and as for 1 cc a week is this good or should i take 2?

 

[tednatas]

PW= per week bro... My personal opinion is your goals might be a bit out or reach if you're just depending on the gear to get you there. At 250 mg per week it is highly unlikely to expect 15lbs of lean...

That being said I don't know much of what you're working with, training experience etc.. so please feel free to give us your stats..

welcome to the board bro

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

Merge&Moved to appropriate Area. don't make multipple post please. Thanx.

 

[Teutonic]

PW= per week bro... My personal opinion is your goals might be a bit out or reach if you're just depending on the gear to get you there. At 250 mg per week it is highly unlikely to expect 15lbs of lean...

That being said I don't know much of what you're working with, training experience etc.. so please feel free to give us your stats..

welcome to the board bro

Agreed.
Welcome-- but 15-20 pound s in 12 wks on 250 pw is not gonna happen unless all you do is eat train sleep..a lot..repeat...IMHO. With a stack, which I do not recomment, that would be attainable but the majority of the weight would be water...
Nolva is fine for pct...
A such a low dose of test water retention and gyno are unlikely but have you considered having an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand to counter potential side s associated with putting exogenous test into your loop ?

 

[rocko3927]

what test are you taking? prop, enanth, Sustanon (sust), cyp,etc.15lbs will not happen in one cycle. but young and have plenty of time to gain that. probably could do it without gear.

 

[hambone2]

PW= per week bro... My personal opinion is your goals might be a bit out or reach if you're just depending on the gear to get you there. At 250 mg per week it is highly unlikely to expect 15lbs of lean...

That being said I don't know much of what you're working with, training experience etc.. so please feel free to give us your stats..

welcome to the board bro

Thanks for the feed back man, to tell you the truth i keep hearing 250mg per week but i only know it by 1 cc a week is this the same? and what is it you would recommend i stack with the test? and yeas i eat like a monster and i pretty much work out all the time this is my life but i want to start this first cycle off right what would you recomend for my 1st cycle week by week? thanks bro sry to ask so many questions just trying to get all my stuff straight.

 

[Italiano SPO]

Thanks for the feed back man, to tell you the truth i keep hearing 250mg per week but i only know it by 1 cc a week is this the same? and what is it you would recommend i stack with the test? and yeas i eat like a monster and i pretty much work out all the time this is my life but i want to start this first cycle off right what would you recomend for my 1st cycle week by week? thanks bro sry to ask so many questions just trying to get all my stuff straight.

It depends on what your test is dosed at. 250mg/ml would be equivalent of 250mg per cc.

 

[hambone2]

what test are you taking? prop, enanth, Sustanon (sust), cyp,etc.15lbs will not happen in one cycle. but young and have plenty of time to gain that. probably could do it without gear.

Ok bro this is what is in my test i got im not sure if you could tell me which it is by the ingredents It has: Propylgallate, grapeseed, benzyl alchohol and test powder?

 

[Drew413]

Hi, so i'm guessing its test enanth? And you should take 500mg a week, Monday 1cc/Thursday1cc. What is your post cycle therapy (pct) (post cycle therapy?)

 

[hambone2]

It depends on what your test is dosed at. 250mg/ml would be equivalent of 250mg per cc.

Ok cool and yeah is it ok to incorperate all that in my 1st cycle? and as for right now all i have is the test and nolvadex.. i know i dont want to run dbol i would like to run Winstrol (winny) with my test could you help me set up a plan for a cycle with these 2 included that would give me some mass with a cut as well? and plz spell it out im a newbi bro i feel so uneducated lol
but really would appreciate the advice!! thanks man

 

[hambone2]

Hi, so i'm guessing its test enanth? And you should take 500mg a week, Monday 1cc/Thursday1cc. What is your PCT (post cycle therapy?)

Thanks man for the info!!

My pct is nolvedex for now and i would start this at the end of my 12 weeks right? Is there anything better i could use or a better plan of taking the nolva?

 

[Drew413]

Well my cycle i'm going to be starting in a couple weeks is-


week 1-12 test enanth 250mg 2xwk
week 1-12 proviron 25mg ed
week 5-12 HCG 250iu 2xwk

Aromasin 12.5mg ed or eod if needed

PCT
week 13-16 Phytoserms-347
week 13-16 Sustain Alpha
week 13-16 Ancient Strength
week 13-16 Attack

 

[hambone2]

Well my cycle i'm going to be starting in a couple weeks is-


week 1-12 test enanth 250mg 2xwk
week 1-12 proviron 25mg ed
week 5-12 HCG 250iu 2xwk

Aromasin 12.5mg ed or eod if needed

PCT
week 13-16 Phytoserms-347
week 13-16 Sustain Alpha
week 13-16 Ancient Strength
week 13-16 Attack

What is the HCG and The proviron? and can you get the Aromasin over the counter?

 

[oasis]

hambone your on the same boat as me. iv done research but just asking questions aswell to make sure lol.

everyone seems cool giving u all this advice, im looking for the exact same the same way to run my cycle etc. want to also make sure im getting it right..

good luck bro with your first cycle!

 

[oasis]

and when u take HCG on your cycle it means itll prevent ball shrinking..
probz more i dont no but thats all i no about hcg that itll stop nuts going like marballs haha

 

[ryansm]

What is the HCG and The proviron? and can you get the Aromasin over the counter?

It's good you are here asking questions, but you really need to do more research into proper AAS use. Also I would like to see what you eat on a daily bases so we can get a better feel on your diet. Here is a good article on HCG, since you are wondering.

 

[riprockwell]

My first advice to you would have been to not start the cycle. Too late for that. I saw you posted that you have done tons of research. It looks to me as if you did no research at all. I am not bashing you, but I am just stating a point. When you are putting Testosterone into your body and you state you are just putting in 1cc and that is all you know, that is very scary and let's me know you are not prepared for a cycle. You should have never started the cycle. You have no clue about the HCG and you are asking about what post cycle therapy (pct) you should take. Rule of thumb is to never start a cycle without having all the necessary items on hand, i.e (post cycle therapy (pct), Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), etc.)

Besides all of that, 21 is too young to cycle. I would wait at least until 23-24 at the earliest. I started cycling young and now I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) for life. You can put all the compounds into your body that you want, but you will be amazed at what training and diet will do. Stay around awhile, hit up the Diet and Training forum and learn as much as you can. Later on you will look back at this post and laugh after you have been around here for awhile.

By the way 1ml = 1CC. So 250MG/10ml bottle is 250mg/ml. Therefore 2cc's would be 500mg. Best of luck. Welcome to Ology!!

But to answer your question, I would run 500mg/wk with injections on Mon, Thursday.