IGF 1 R3 for ladies, will 10 mcg work?

[chicmuscle]

i was researching about the awesome effects of IGF 1 R3. what i read is that results were seen at low doses of 20mcg per day. can we females get away with 10mcg per day? 1st off, we really dont need much of anything. 2nd off it can make the IGF stretch futher, more usage for the dollar amount.

chichy

 

[chicmuscle]

no replys!! thats cool. im saving up for some next, and then ill post some results

chichy

 

[supergirl]

i would do a hell of a lot more research before EVER using IGF-1
Me personally would not touch it with a ten foot pole!! Igf-1 is the culprit for all the negative side effects from gh... igf-1 can cause cancer cells to grow not to mention all the other fun stuff that comes along with it.. it is a catch 22.. just not enough research yet on it.. the long term effects are too risky..
But this is my opinion and $.02 on the research i have done...
super

 

[aznurse]

You might want to read this thread.

http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7032

 

[chicmuscle]

superg,
yeah ive read about the negetives, the cancer and all. yes, it scares me. i read that females are more prone to get breat cancer using it. i dont know the validity of it, but im still searching.

aznurse,
thanks for the link. im going to go read it.

chichy

oh thanks for replying. i appreciate it.

 

[chelsea]

Chichy,
Does that mean you are still thinking about it even knowing that? Chelsea

 

[chicmuscle]

chelsea,
no,,,now im indecisive. maybe i should just stick with pgh and deca phenlyprop?

chichy

 

[aznurse]

From what I have read, R3IGF-1 can cause cancer cells to grow, but does not 'cause' cancer. If one already has cancer, then all AAS/GH use is contraindicated. If I were using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and concerned about cancer, I would be asking the same question and not just applying it to IGF-1. My wife is using 10mcg per day of R3 IGF-1, so being on top of the potential side effects is very important to us. She also has used P-GH and stopped when she started R3-IGF1.

 

[aznurse]

Here is another URL with good discussion/information on R3 IGF-1.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13470

 

[chicmuscle]

From what I have read, R3IGF-1 can cause cancer cells to grow, but does not 'cause' cancer. If one already has cancer, then all AAS/GH use is contraindicated. If I were using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and concerned about cancer, I would be asking the same question and not just applying it to IGF-1. My wife is using 10mcg per day of R3 IGF-1, so being on top of the potential side effects is very important to us. She also has used P-GH and stopped when she started R3-IGF1.

hey azn,
yes that makes a lot of sence. since cancer cells and muscle cells kinda have the same receptors and both respond to IGF. however, cancer cell are phenominally dofferent than that of any regular cell. i wont go into that because by the time im done ill have a text book going.

i dont think that i have cancer, but i do have fibroids in the breast. their annoying. but i think ill go have them checked out again. who knows they may be cancer.

im going to go read that second site.

chichy

 

[chelsea]

Chichy,
Im not trying to tell you what you should or shouldnt do since its ultimately your decision but at 20 yrs old dont you think you are starting out with some pretty intense stuff???? Maybe Im just overly cautious but having read a lot of things you've asked about, it just seems like a big leap. Chelsea

 

[chicmuscle]

hmmm,,, yeah. you may be right. i just dont know what i want to try for my upcoming bulking cycle. you see, as i keep on reading about all muscle enhancing compounds, there are some i wont touch and there are others that i will. for example, after really reading about the 2 decas, and reading your posts, i would choose the phenyprop ester over the decanoate. (i dont care much for the E3D shots, once a week would be good for me) i dont think test is all that bad, as ive already tried prop. and i think proviron is better than nolva for an anti e because its known not to have a rebound effect. thats if i was using test.

then i read about IGF. what ive read thus far seem pretty great. muscle gain and fat loss. i want to gain some good lean mass on my upper body. so, what i reason right now with the use of IGF, is that i can eat the needed amount of calories for muscle gain, while not putting on too much fat, but the lean mass.

i may be in far left field with this.

chichy

 

[chelsea]

Id definitely do the Phenylprop again. I dont know whether I will ever venture to test prop or not. If you asked me now, Id say no. You dont need an anti-e after a cycle since you are a woman. I just dont see the reason for the IGF since your a lot younger than me your level of growth hormone is already higher and I got pretty lean gains from just my cycles. Chelsea

 

[chicmuscle]

back when i was 16-18 years old i had a very easy time controlly my BF percentage. i got it down to 14% seminaturally. it would have been natrually if i didnt take betalean HP. back then it had ephedra in it. i also was running track as well as doing my own weight lifting program, and daily to, specifically m-f. know im having a little harder time with it but then again im having an easyer time with my period. the damn thing is regular and i hate it. when i was like 16-18, it was very irregular. it would appear painless for 3 days and diaapear for like 8 months. i have a feeling that this could have been induced by myself.

im thinking that a little IGF will help in the leaning process. no Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) does that, propbably with the exception of fina. i dont want to try fina. from what i know, it can quickly virilize a female. also the other week i found a picture of a female penis. it was a good inch long. nothing that any girl would want to cut off, unless they can handle the pain. after seeing that pic i would even consider fina. im going to try to find that pic so i can send it too you. its trippy. if i found it can i post it?

oops i got off the thread topic, sorry

chichy

 

[chelsea]

Oh my gosh, Im curious to see it. Ive never seen anything like that. I guess I understand a little more what you are thinking. Ive always had a pretty easy time with BF and knowing how everyone reacts differently to every AAS, I see why you are more concerned with putting on lean mass. My body has always stayed pretty lean, even after having a child and being 36 so I guess Im lucky in that respect. My BF tends to stay around 11 or 12 and I still have regular periods unless Im on something. Chelsea

 

[chicmuscle]

i found the picture. now i going to uplaod it

chichy

 

[BADKITTY]

yeh ive heard about that kind of virilization as well~ but on fina? i know Super has run fina w/ no virilization; so have several friends of mine...i just think people get carried away and up the dosage too fast. i myself am currently on 50mgs of tren acetate E3D with absolutely no sides after 4weeks so far, and i know fina and tren are similar/same? its all about responsible dosing...hehe like drink responsibly..."dose responsibly"

 

[chicmuscle]

yeah,,,thats what i read. i havnt actually talked with any female that has tried fina. all i have to go buy is what i read. are you taking anything else with the fina? how are your gains and fat lose?

chichy

 

[chicmuscle]

im having issues loading the picture. i go to post reply, attach file, click browse, find the pic i want to uplaod and then select submit reply. every time i do that i get a message saying that there is slight problem with steroidology forum database.

does someone know what i can do to upload this pic?

chichy

 

[tommbstone]

igf_1

R igf-1 is about impossible to find. The real deal that is.