im sick of laying around what should i do

e92 said:
just started tb500 do you recommend anything else?




uhhhhh yeah i dont think im gonna try curling with a fucked up hand. i dont wanna get surgery again...


haha still holding a grudge? listen guy i've done the cycling bullshit and i dont think its worth it. even if you "keep" 50% of your gains you still look deflated when you come off. AAS dont simply make you bigger, but they also make you thicker, your traps and shoulders blow up, sometimes your waist gets smaller, im sure you know all of this. your hormones become elevated, so your diet and training can be FLAWLESS when coming off but you simply wont have the same look as you do when you're on because you have normal hormones when you come off. i could blast test tren and gh for 3 months and gain 10lbs of lean mass not even lifting a single weight. dont ever speak to me in a condescending way again because my message board credentials dont add up like yours do, tough guy
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Sounds like your estradiol is too high. You should get it checked.
 
Why do people get so butthurt?

Everyone's got something to prove as a noob.. bashing mods just wouldn't be the route I'd take to get my point across.
 
e92 said:
just started tb500 do you recommend anything else?




uhhhhh yeah i dont think im gonna try curling with a fucked up hand. i dont wanna get surgery again...


haha still holding a grudge? listen guy i've done the cycling bullshit and i dont think its worth it. even if you "keep" 50% of your gains you still look deflated when you come off. AAS dont simply make you bigger, but they also make you thicker, your traps and shoulders blow up, sometimes your waist gets smaller, im sure you know all of this. your hormones become elevated, so your diet and training can be FLAWLESS when coming off but you simply wont have the same look as you do when you're on because you have normal hormones when you come off. i could blast test tren and gh for 3 months and gain 10lbs of lean mass not even lifting a single weight. dont ever speak to me in a condescending way again because my message board credentials dont add up like yours do, tough guy
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Yeeesh ... lol!

 
e92 you could quite possible be the most ignorant person i have read on this forum. you honestly say the most ridiculous and outlandish things. you act as though you have experience and you say things that have been proven to be false. If your diet and training were flawless coming off cycle along with a good pct you would not lose your gains of course water weight will go away but you will keep your muscular size. muscles don't just blow up on cycle. when you work out they get bigger and stronger and build more tissue. you will bloat on cycle of course from water weight but it is an understanding that the bloat will go away once the cycle is finished. and if anyone on this board has a right to speak to you in a condescending way about this matter it would be 3J because he has the knowledge and experience and has seen results from himself and his clients that keep their gains. You being a douche bag and making these statements, that are ridiculous to say the least, just shows how unbelievably outrageous your thinking is.

sorry for the rant. 3J needed someone besides himself to defend him from this prick!
 
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Bigboss12 said:
e92 you could quite possible be the most ignorant person i have read on this forum. you honestly say the most ridiculous and outlandish things. you act as though you have experience and you say things that have been proven to be false. If your diet and training were flawless coming off cycle along with a good pct you would not lose your gains of course water weight will go away but you will keep your muscular size. muscles don't just blow up on cycle. when you work out they get bigger and stronger and build more tissue. you will bloat on cycle of course from water weight but it is an understanding that the bloat will go away once the cycle is finished. and if anyone on this board has a right to speak to you in a condescending way about this matter it would be 3J because he has the knowledge and experience and has seen results from himself and his clients that keep their gains. You being a douche bag and making these statements, that are ridiculous to say the least, just shows how unbelievably outrageous your thinking is.

sorry for the rant. 3J needed someone besides himself to defend him from this prick!
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lets put muscular size aside here for a moment. if you took 2 skinny kids who havent worked out ever and put them on an 8 week cycle of test, and the other one stays natty. neither of them will lift weights and they will eat the same diet. the kid on the juice will clearly be bigger, stronger, leaner, fuller veiner than the other kid without even touching a weigh just cause of the high hormones in his body. the moment exogenous hormones are introduced to the body, muscle size isnt the only thing that is increased. when you are off cycle, you go back to that natural look and thats all im trying to say. you dont have the fullness or the hardness, you dont have the veins and the capped delts and huge traps. i see guys at my gym who cycle, and sure when they come off they still have 70-90% of their size but it is just soo obvious that they are off. thats all im trying to say and i dont understand why im being bashed because everything im saying is true.

then u got is j3 guy saying if you diet and train right when coming off you will look the same. give me a break
 
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e92 said:
lets put muscular size aside here for a moment. if you took 2 skinny kids who havent worked out ever and put them on an 8 week cycle of test, and the other one stays natty. neither of them will lift weights and they will eat the same diet. the kid on the juice will clearly be bigger, stronger, leaner, fuller veiner than the other kid without even touching a weigh just cause of the high hormones in his body. the moment exogenous hormones are introduced to the body, muscle size isnt the only thing that is increased. when you are off cycle, you go back to that natural look and thats all im trying to say. you dont have the fullness or the hardness, you dont have the veins and the capped delts and huge traps. i see guys at my gym who cycle, and sure when they come off they still have 70-90% of their size but it is just soo obvious that they are off. thats all im trying to say and i dont understand why im being bashed because everything im saying is true.

then u got is j3 guy saying if you diet and train right when coming off you will look the same. give me a break
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So much wrong with everything you just said. Too much to even try to correct. You're arguing with guys who have much much more experience than you. Your goal at this point should be to learn, not teach because you have no actual knowledge to share yet. Before you can learn you have to swallow your pride and admit that you really don't know anything.
 
Bigboss12 said:
e92 you could quite possible be the most ignorant person i have read on this forum. you honestly say the most ridiculous and outlandish things. you act as though you have experience and you say things that have been proven to be false. If your diet and training were flawless coming off cycle along with a good pct you would not lose your gains of course water weight will go away but you will keep your muscular size. muscles don't just blow up on cycle. when you work out they get bigger and stronger and build more tissue. you will bloat on cycle of course from water weight but it is an understanding that the bloat will go away once the cycle is finished. and if anyone on this board has a right to speak to you in a condescending way about this matter it would be 3J because he has the knowledge and experience and has seen results from himself and his clients that keep their gains. You being a douche bag and making these statements, that are ridiculous to say the least, just shows how unbelievably outrageous your thinking is.

sorry for the rant. 3J needed someone besides himself to defend him from this prick!
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lol.. its ok guys.. he defeats himself with his statement.. i really dont need to say anything in the end..

i must be a wizard.. because my clients usually only lose a small fraction of weight, stay the same weight, or gain weight in pct.. .

must be a magic pill i send them.. who knows right??!!
 
e92 said:
just started tb500 do you recommend anything else?




uhhhhh yeah i dont think im gonna try curling with a fucked up hand. i dont wanna get surgery again...


haha still holding a grudge? listen guy i've done the cycling bullshit and i dont think its worth it. even if you "keep" 50% of your gains you still look deflated when you come off. AAS dont simply make you bigger, but they also make you thicker, your traps and shoulders blow up, sometimes your waist gets smaller, im sure you know all of this. your hormones become elevated, so your diet and training can be FLAWLESS when coming off but you simply wont have the same look as you do when you're on because you have normal hormones when you come off. i could blast test tren and gh for 3 months and gain 10lbs of lean mass not even lifting a single weight. dont ever speak to me in a condescending way again because my message board credentials dont add up like yours do, tough guy
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3J I'm done with you man. This dudes where it's at.
 
e92 said:
thats the dumbest thing i've ever heard. and besides i was in the hospital for 2 of these 3 weeks. and i cant believe you guys are recommending i squat with a ruptured tendon! lol!
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I have a torn ulner lateral ligament in my left wrist for a year, and havent stopped lifting.

There are numerous leg workouts you can do, abs, cardio.

No reason to skip the gym
 
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