Low T at 22 - Clomiphene Citrate 50mg EOD Notes

[johnfromeurope]

DrHouse: how long are you off? if not long, take bloods 3,4 months after and tell then...of course i hope it stays high
AGtrain: there's a lot of confusion in your post...you're not feeling good on 200mg Test/ 2week, how do you think you're gonna feel going natural again? I advise you change to weekly injections, it should make a difference! Take 150mg(yes mg, not iu lol)/week .. should be better as your T at 687 is not sky high .. your joints are achy? that's not from testosterone i suppose...are you on any other med.? First fix the testosterone issuse, then mess with HGH ..

 

[DrHouse]

Currently, I will be off indefinitely unless things change. I doubt my physician even consider seeing me over that issue any more.

 

[Alpin]

Good for you.

 

[AGtrain]

APOLLON, thank you and sorry for the ambiguity in my post.

I have been getting blood tests every 3 to six months. The test I got before I started test when I was 21 showed my natural levels to be 22 out of normal (400-1100?). I was immediately given androgel until my insurance couldn't prescribe it anymore. SO, I started 200mg/1ml test shots once every two weeks. It is t-cypionate. It DID take away joint pain, depression, frequent sad moods, non-existent libido, non-appetite, sleep deficiency and all of the rest. At first it was AMAZING. I attribute my low t levels to not cycling off anabol correctly and alcohol consumption in which symptoms first began appearing.

Therefore, I must keep trucking on in life, as my endo says, with test production probably not going to restart, also as my endo says. Should I ask her to give me t-enanthate rather than cyprionate? Should I start using small amounts of clomid? Should I look into HGH?

My glands produce normal levels of LH and FSH, but for some reason I can get whatever precursor converted into testosterone.

About ~8 days after my shot of test-cypionate ive started to feel energy drained, low mood, low libido and virtually, what feels like, low testosterone. Has anyone ever heard of using one type of test to stop working as well? or trying to use clomid to lower estrogen levels to compensate? I thank all advise....
I would love any questions anyone recommends for me to ask my endo as well.

 

[Alpin]

APOLLON, thank you and sorry for the ambiguity in my post.

I have been getting blood tests every 3 to six months. The test I got before I started test when I was 21 showed my natural levels to be 22 out of normal (400-1100?). I was immediately given androgel until my insurance couldn't prescribe it anymore. SO, I started 200mg/1ml test shots once every two weeks. It is t-cypionate. It DID take away joint pain, depression, frequent sad moods, non-existent libido, non-appetite, sleep deficiency and all of the rest. At first it was AMAZING. I attribute my low t levels to not cycling off anabol correctly and alcohol consumption in which symptoms first began appearing.

Therefore, I must keep trucking on in life, as my endo says, with test production probably not going to restart, also as my endo says. Should I ask her to give me t-enanthate rather than cyprionate? Should I start using small amounts of clomid? Should I look into HGH?

My glands produce normal levels of LH and FSH, but for some reason I can get whatever precursor converted into testosterone.

About ~8 days after my shot of test-cypionate ive started to feel energy drained, low mood, low libido and virtually, what feels like, low testosterone. Has anyone ever heard of using one type of test to stop working as well? or trying to use clomid to lower estrogen levels to compensate? I thank all advise....
I would love any questions anyone recommends for me to ask my endo as well.

Clomid doesn't lower Estrogen levels. It does the opposite.
Sounds like you are experiencing Estradiol elevation.
Get "Estradiol" tested or a panel for "Estradiol sensitive".
You can try Injecting 50 mg twice a week or 100 mg E7D but twice weekly is better.
You are aromatizing a lot more with E2W shots and your hormones are all over the place.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Someone has a dick up their ass because I said he was annoying for not reading previous posts in detail. Its my thread and I will update it as I see fit.

The numbers don't lie. 1487. That's all that matters. If my doctor wanted to know my E2 level HE would've asked to get it tested. I didn't go through a private lab. I went through a PHYSICIAN who instructed me on the protocol. I didn't self medicate and pretend to know more than a trained professional like Apollon.

Apollon, please leave my thread. You're no longer welcomed as far as I am concerned.

you request the blood work you need, not rely on doc! YOU did not get the blood work needed and are flaming members here trying to help you. YOU are the one out of line!

 

[SicVic]

You will know the clomid is kicking in when you have a strong desire to cuddle and watch an episode of Glee.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ROFL, I totally know what you are talking about.

 

[AGtrain]

THanks for the info! that's exactly what I wanted to know.

I will get my estradiol tested thank you

 

[DrHouse]

Thank you to all of those who have been beneficial in my journey through my issues. Some moderators have been incredible with advice as well as fellow Ology members. Some have created issues far more dramatic than I live my life so I have chosen to remove my material.

I'm sorry to those who have lost informative information on their situations and I hope you feel free to message me if you have questions for me. A very select few will be ignored. Any others are welcome.

 

[benoes]

Hi brother, i saw this thread about Clomid and how it has helped you. Im 20, got a testosterone level below the normal range, and depending on how my next blood test goes in a months time my doctor said he might have to put me on TRT. I obviously wanna exhaust all avenues before i have to go on TRT so i was looking into Clomid as a way to increase my test. How has it worked for you? Did u have low test symptoms like low mood, energy and low libido? Has those improved? What are your thoughts on Clomid for increase test levels in young males? Thanks bro

 

[benoes]

I would pm you but im assuming my post count is too low. Ill work on getting it up so i can pm you soon