Low Testosterone?

[kmid]

Hey people

I posted a few months back worried that i had shut down after 2 courses, i then finished a 6 week course of Nolvadex and went to my doctor.

I have since been to the doctor to get test levels recorded and i go every 4 weeks so he can see how i am doing. We have done 3seperate test levels each a couple of months a part.

they have come back as the following 12.8, 13.3, 12.8

In the months after my last course i have suffered from erectile dysfunction, lack of libido and motivation, fatuiged, lost 18 pounds, suffering with paranoid thoughts, lack of sleep at night and i think iv been very low and depressed in this time.

The doctor seems to think im fine and can do nothing as he claims the normality range is between 8 and 25. He has admitted to not being too clued up on the subject of steroids (which i know isn't his fault)

I need some kind of advice or direction from somewere as it is really affecting my life now, and i dont think my doctor knows how seriously this is affecting me. I really need to talk to people that know what they are talking about, iv been dealing with this on my own for too long.

I am 23 just to clarify

 

[Polynikes666]

If you were 30 or above, I would advise you to contact Chip at Maximus HRT. Hell, email or PM him anyways. He may not be able to help you directly, but he may be able to provide you with a reasonable "next step".

Poly

 

[kmid]

thanks mate, but how do i get in touch? is his name chip?

 

[kmid]

also mate im from the UK

 

[Polynikes666]

Maximus has a banner to the right. Yes, his name is Chip, and I can attest to his being a good person to work with. As I said, I doubt if he would be able to help you directly, but he may be able to put you into contact with the right people.

Good luck,

Poly

 

[kmid]

Thanks for your help mate. i cant see a email contact anywere though? as im from the uk i would be interested in phoning, i actually tried and the number didnt work for me anyway.

Anybody else help me here, i dont want to do any replacment test treatments though, i am only 23.

is it too late to possibly run another post cycle therapy (pct) 6 months after? will it rise naturally? i really do need to discuss this with somebody.

i am not educated enough on the subject myself and trust is very low considering what has happined to myself.

 

[Polynikes666]

I just PM'ed you Chip's Email address.

Poly

 

[kmid]

Anybody?

 

[MattPorter]

Anybody?

Kmid,

What ancillaries have you been currently running to get your levels to function? Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) alongside a serm or AI? Natural products etc? If this is a true medical condition, the Doctor (regardless of age) should take action and assit you in feeling better, whether thats with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) gels, depots, or anything, this needs to be addressed. There are tons of natural products to induce LH surges...DAA, Bulgarian trib, Tran resv, Hell, even viagra and cialis have reported recently to boost test levels.....

 

[DADAWG]

i would try clomid for 4 weeks at 50 mg if i was your age .

 

[kmid]

Kmid,

What ancillaries have you been currently running to get your levels to function? Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) alongside a serm or AI? Natural products etc? If this is a true medical condition, the Doctor (regardless of age) should take action and assit you in feeling better, whether thats with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) gels, depots, or anything, this needs to be addressed. There are tons of natural products to induce LH surges...DAA, Bulgarian trib, Tran resv, Hell, even viagra and cialis have reported recently to boost test levels.....

Alright mate, ull have to be abit more simple in what your asking me, im not the most clued up person when talking about this.

My level is say 13 naturally at this moment in time, i am running nothing to make it this way, my doctor perscribes me 50mg viagra so i am able to perform, and i am taking ZMA and trib to try and give me a boost.

This had been going on for around 5 months since i last finished my last nolvadex tablet, the nolva seemed to have helped raise my test to its current level but it is all guess work as i dont know my original test level, but due to all the problems i have been having and virtually no sex drive id say iv had a dramatic dip, i seem to have some better weeks than others, but the bad weeks are very depressing and its hard to get on with my life.

Doctor has not give me anything else, i have told him its gettin me down heavily, he has said it could be in my head, he also said i cant be treated as my level is normal, and they cant treat normal, which is fair enough.

 

[kmid]

i would try clomid for 4 weeks at 50 mg if i was your age .

Hey mate, this is what i was thinking, running a post cycle therapy (pct) again, is it not too late to try this? were talking 6 months since my last jab.

my level being 13, does this suggest there is test there and i aint shut down?

a mate seems to think clomid isnt a good idea, im not saying i agree with him, but i have trust issues after what was suggested for my courses, would clomid benefit my levels for sure? Its something i thought would maybe help and you seem to clued up more than me or him

 

[peter north]

Clomid may help, there is no garantee however. Do you have testicular atrophy still? If so some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy might be in order..

 

[kmid]

Clomid may help, there is no garantee however. Do you have testicular atrophy still? If so some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy might be in order..

,

I cant tell mate, they are bigger than when on cycle, im sure of that. i remember then being tiny!

Im unsure as to whether they are as big before i touched anything at all, i just could not remember that.

Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy anything like testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) if so i do not want to completly lose my natural test.

 

[peter north]

No it is not similar to TRT. read up on it, hopefully someone can chime in that knows more about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this far post cycle than i do, which is not much.

 

[kmid]

No it is not similar to TRT. read up on it, hopefully someone can chime in that knows more about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this far post cycle than i do, which is not much.

Thanks for the quick reply, i will have a look. Its hard as my doctor has said this is new to him and im struggling. There is nobody to talk to at all, so you guys are doing me a big favor replying, only being 23 i dont want this to be the way for the rest of my years.

Really need some guidance from you guys in the know here to get my life back on track

 

[Polynikes666]

KMID,

Get your body back on track first (obviously), and then consult this board before you start another cycle. I'd be willing to bet that we can help ameliorate these issues during your future recovery periods.

Poly

 

[kmid]

KMID,

Get your body back on track first (obviously), and then consult this board before you start another cycle. I'd be willing to bet that we can help ameliorate these issues during your future recovery periods.

Poly

So my body isn't back to normal after 5 months since my last nolva?

By next course do you mean another course includin deca test and dbol or just a pct?

Thank you for your replys mate, I appreciate the info, if you guys can help me regain some kind of level were I'm not feeling low and depressed and have a functioning erection I will be the happiest man alive only today I have had to break things off with my girfriend, I just can't have the pressure hanging over me.

 

[DADAWG]

i believe clomid is more effective as post cycle therapy (pct) than nolva. its definately worth a try in your situation.

 

[kmid]

Polynikes, any chance you could elaborate on your last post please?

I can get my hands on clomid 50x50mg tabs for £30

I dont want to start anything till i have a lot more information and thoughts though.