Low Testosterone?

Ok guys nearly time to get things up and running.

gear has arrived.

2x 5000iu of hcg
Bac water
Slin pins
Clomid
Nolva

spare vials arrived today

mixing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shouldnt be a problem

pinning subq in stomach (just finishing off final details in my other thread)

Going to be a saturday start (26th feb)

1000iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) every other day for 15 days totalling 8 shots = 8000iu (sat 26th feb - sat 12th mar)

bloods will be taken on the 11th day (8th mar) at this point ill have taken my 6th shot = 6000iu that morning before my test.

results fed back to me on the 14th day (11th mar)

last shot the day after, 15th day and 12th mar.

if my results are high enough, start serms after a 4 day wait (17th mar)

run clomid 50mg ed and nolva 20mg ed for 28 days. course ending 14th april.

anybody has any final bits to share or anything i am doing slighty wrong quickly reply before saturday otherwise this is the plan.

ill keep the thread updated throughout my course.

Thanks to everybody that has contribuited in this thread and also my other thread about the mixing and pinning of HCG.

special thanks to the-det-oak who has contribuited a lot to the thread and directed me througout on what i should do, havent seen you round latley bro but a big thanks and much apprieciation.

hopefully the thread can direct others.
 
looks good-maybe run nolva a week or 2 longer than clomid.

Please share your bloods with us ASAP and make sure you fast and all that like your suppose to before the test, in hopes to attain accurate results.
 
ok hit a problem already, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is here, as is clomid. nolva wasnt :(

also the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) has come with 1ml of bac per 5000iu.

i had been anticipating a 10ml bottle or there abouts to mix 5ml with 5000iu to create 1000iu per 1ml

and the slin pins i was also told id be getting are non existent. :bash:

so what would the deal be mixing 1ml per 5000iu, the guy tried to breifly explain about the slin pin having a iu meter on them? But id rather come here for advice

Think im just going to order myself a bottle of bac water and sum slins from some website i got my vials from and start in a weeks time.

hes pretty sure my nolva will be here within the week if not i could pick that up with no real problems elsewere. It was only the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that was tough getting hold of.
 
Just to make sure this is right

im ordering 20x insulin syringes, 1ml (1cc) x 28g x 1/2

and 30ml bac water.

Just making sure they are the syringes as theres another type available.
 
That is correct on pins and bac water. The water that they send with it is no good. It's sterile water no bacteriostatic in it.
 
That is correct on pins and bac water. The water that they send with it is no good. It's sterile water no bacteriostatic in it.

Yes correct, another look at it and its sterile water (1ml)

ordered some bac water yesterday (30ml)

and 20 syringes.

the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is in a kind of nodule, so good job i got the spare vials!

sets me back a week though :(

Suppose it gives time for the nolvadex to arrive.
 
its a pain in the ass waiting :(

everything is prepared and ready to go then he drops a bomb that the nolva didnt come :redhot:

About acne when on course, last time i did just nolva at 20/20/20/20/20/20

It did mess my face up alittle, which dosent help with confidence and attitude while on course.

i have ordered proactive as my face wash and so on.

I have some tablets given to me by the doc last year, about 2 months worth

there called Tetralysal 300mg/lymecycline 408mg

It would take too long to get accutane now, as when i was on them as a teenager it took about 2 months to get them due to blood tests and so on, and iv spent enough money buying this pct.

Anbody used these before? they arnt as aggressive as accutane though, but something i may use to keep acne down.

Only real problem is in my height of anxiety i thought these were making me feel down a lot, maybe just me being paranoid and it was probably just the low test.

surley if the accutane is recommended during course and post cycle therapy (pct), trying these can do no harm?
 
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its a pain in the ass waiting :(

everything is prepared and ready to go then he drops a bomb that the nolva didnt come :redhot:

About acne when on course, last time i did just nolva at 20/20/20/20/20/20

It did mess my face up alittle, which dosent help with confidence and attitude while on course.

i have ordered proactive as my face wash and so on.

I have some tablets given to me by the doc last year, about 2 months worth

there called Tetralysal 300mg/lymecycline 408mg

It would take too long to get accutane now, as when i was on them as a teenager it took about 2 months to get them due to blood tests and so on, and iv spent enough money buying this pct.

Anbody used these before? they arnt as aggressive as accutane though, but something i may use to keep acne down.

Only real problem is in my height of anxiety i thought these were making me feel down a lot, maybe just me being paranoid and it was probably just the low test.

surley if the accutane is recommended during course and post cycle therapy (pct), trying these can do no harm?

Are you saying you had anxiety issues from the accutane?
 
det-oak - what difference would it make with no nolva?
I
m starting up this saturday definatly, just waiting on my bac water which should come today. Nolva should arrive on time though.

Might tweek the course to start a little earlier, how much iu of Hcg would i need in my system for it to get working and usually give off a healthy/good test result if all works fine? im probably looking to go into a test with around 6000iu, and 1000iu of the 6000 being shot that morning, so 5000iu plus 1000iu being pinned about 1 hour before my test id imagine. or is there much point taking that 1000 before?

Is there any problem with the time since i last finished my last post cycle therapy (pct)?

what i mean is its roughly been 6 months since my last nolva tablet, does it have a decreased effect the longer you wait?



ryansm - i was never on accutane while cycling, havent been on them since i was 15/16

the tablets i have mentioned i was taking, it was when i didnt know my test was low, so all these things were happening and i didnt know what the fuck was going on

my skin was a mess around the time, so i took the Tetralysal 300mg/lymecycline 408mg

I seemed to be paranoid and very anxious around the time, come off the tabs and had a few good days, but when i found out my test was low slipped back into previous state

I dont know if the tablets were causing me to be that bit more paranoid/anxious or just had me feeling down, or it was just a phsyological thing.
 
It was probably you knowing that your test was low and this causing anxiety...anyway best of luck to you.
 
I'm gonna do the same protocol to the T pratically once I'm off my letro course to rid some gyno...

I've been watching this with great enthusiasm since day one and hope you get the results we're aiming for.

I'd like to thank you and DET-OAK both for this thread as it gave a lot of direction, so thanks guys!
 
I'm gonna do the same protocol to the T pratically once I'm off my letro course to rid some gyno...

I've been watching this with great enthusiasm since day one and hope you get the results we're aiming for.

I'd like to thank you and DET-OAK both for this thread as it gave a lot of direction, so thanks guys!

Glad to help mate, it may seem a pain in the ass but i like to be thorough and get as many answers to as many questins as i can :)
If i had done this before my courses i wouldnt be in this mess haha.

Im definatly getting under way saturday so i will keep you and others posted on how it goes.
 
Ok guys, today was the day. Took my first 1ml - 1000iu today. all seemed to go fine :)

how many shots will it take to start feeling the effect of the HCG if it works?
 
Hey guys, finished my course now.

to conclude, ran 10,000iu over 2 weeks, then hit the clomid for 6 weeks as i felt i wasnt having any harsh sides.

I dont want to jump the gun, and will be waiting for my tests first before declaring everything is normal again, but i feel its done the trick.

mood really picked up while on the clomid, as did my appetite, i was sleeping better, looking healthier, and have began putting a few pounds on again.

Erection was still a problem until the weekend, it was the first time in over 6 months iv performed without viagra. Now confidence is up and my erection seems back to its old rock solid ways.

just finished the clomid yesterday so i pressume that during this month, things can only improve as i continue to recover.

As i say i dont want to jump the gun and start thanking everyone on a job well done, but the signs are very positive, so i will say thanks to everyone that has contributed in the thread! You guys seem to have helped me through a really rough patch in my life when my own doctors wouldn't. I cant begin to describe how grateful i am.

Special mention to THE-DET-OAK who i have had daily contact with and has directed me throughout.

And also UserAt204 who was there abouts in all my threads aswell

all you other guys who have chipped in aswell, i owe a big thank you to you.

Things are looking up.
 
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