With all the guys on here that do it that way and fail to recover show me your proof.
The reason I took the time to write this is because so many guys are following the "proven" method and failing.
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With all the guys on here that do it that way and fail to recover show me your proof.
The reason I took the time to write this is because so many guys are following the "proven" method and failing.
I agree with this ^^^^^^^
Balboa, the blast right after is not proven just because it was recommended on this site. You don't have any real evidence bro. Like i said...you need to be more progressive in your thought process to help you see beyond the parroted advice
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Man I love thus thread!! I've learned a lot of good info on here. I can honestly say I'm smarter now.
Read the original post - when you start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is determined by the esters of the drugs used on cycle and the amount of drugs used. I explain how to calculate the "days after last pin" in the the first post.
This is just a flat out stupid comment. Your not taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) advise from a guy that has been on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for 20years? What does that have to do with it? And are you too thick headed to do your own first grade math to figure out esters? Seriously balboa....open mouth insert foot
Just keep doing it your way then, good luck
First, I started Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) 2 years ago and therefore I've NOT been on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for 20 years. I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion.
I trained drug-free for 17 years prior to starting HRT.
Since you cannot use Google yourself, below is a list of averaged estimated half lives rounded up to the nearest whole day of common esters. Remember, they are only estimates.
acetate 3 days
propionate 3 days
phenylprop 3 days
isocaproate 4 days
enathate 6 days
cypionate 7 days
decanoate 8 days
Undecanoate 9 days
Now using those estimates, do the math based on the amount of the particular esterfied drug you are using to figure out your waiting period prior to blasting HCG.
Please don't embarrass yourself any further by posting that you cannot do the math and that you need me to do it for you.
This thread is great. It def makes sense. I dont mean to hijack your thread but i have a question. During post cycle therapy (pct) what is an alternative to nolva? I am on Zoloft and it causes Nolva not to work.
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I have no answer for you. I don't know anything about those kinds of drugs.
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
You don't have hex in there. Lol. Boa your retarded!!! I love you man but just the way cash talks you can tell he is very educated. Most guys just give advice on personal experience which i believe is good. Cash brings that and chemical aspect of Aas. No matter what personal experience is personal experience. Everyone is different when it comes down to it.
wutangnomo1
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Interesting read. Makes sense to me... do the blast when your test levels are back to norm.
Question, why 10 shots of 2000iu EOD and not 1000iu shots for 20 days straight? Is 1000iu not enough to stimulate the testes?
What dose of arimidex would you run and for how long?
Question, why 10 shots of 2000iu EOD and not 1000iu shots for 20 days straight? Is 1000iu not enough to stimulate the testes?
What dose of arimidex would you run and for how long?
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EOD because the Lydigs don't require continuous stimulation. They seems to respond better to a pulse pattern of stimulation.
I've seen people run 1500 EOD with success so 1000 may work but I, personally, have not seen anyone have success in that dosage.
I have never seen 2000 iu fail to produce results. Go with what is known to work.
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RAPIDOO15
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Amazing thread Great Read!!!!!!
I read your post on the top of page 3 and you suggest not using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) During Cycle, what if my intentions are of staving of testicular atrophy and I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout my entire cycle when would i start the blast phase????
I read your post on the top of page 3 and you suggest not using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) During Cycle, what if my intentions are of staving of testicular atrophy and I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout my entire cycle when would i start the blast phase????
Using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle has no effect on when you start your blast of HCG.
You start your blast when the AAS in your system have returned to normal physiological levels.
Gravity'sDefiance
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great thread.. im gonna follow the info gathered here for my current cycle. its sad to think after reading this that ive never used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before, and ive run gear 6 or more times.. there was NO mention of it on the forum i was on when i was starting out several years ago
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