Detroit I like your ideas and the help you provide people constantly here at Ology so I wanted to participate in this. I don't get to post here too often but I pop in for a few mins daily to check the new info and you are always giving of your time and effort here so I wanted to contribute to your very good idea. I'm traveling on business and don't have time to create a new thread but I put this together a couple of weeks ago at my homespot and although it isn't right on the mark for your criteria I thought it would still be valuable and fit nicely with what you are looking for. I edited it a little bit to respect this good place here and not use any other board names and such out of respect. I hope it helps some of you here.
...if anyone agrees or disagrees with it please by all means express your opinions. That's what it is for. To create perspective and spark some good thinking.
So here it is...
Let's talk about something new for once...seems like everyday we talk about the same thing and so at times, we're short in our answers and participation just because that is human nature. We all want something new but let's face it...we don't get that thread that grabs our attention and sparks new perspective on our AAS. All of you in here speaking your minds are the "good stuff"...it is literally why I love Ology and visit everyday even when I don't have time to post.
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Let's talk about a formerly rare compound that is peeking it's head back out again. In fact it's a compound that many of us have never used...which is cool...but could fill a purpose that all of us that lift have a need for.
Let's talk about DHB-dihydroboldenone. If this was more available and was called dihydroboldenone instead of 1-test cyp, I think it would be widely used. Almost everyone that uses it describes their experience as more potent and hardening than high dose primo and very similar to tren without all of the shitty sides. I have done a lot of first hand research and talked to many people, searching many boards, to talk with those that have run it. When it is real and well produced it is very powerful with dry quality gains from the beginning to end of the cycle. Very good and consistent strength gains as well as very sharp density in the muscles. If the powder becomes more readily available (that will only happen with demand...)and they can figure out a way to make the inj more tolerable (EO would help I bet) we will have a legitimate primo substitute that has even better effects. It will make your muscles as hard and full as almost anything out there and is very tolerable. Sure a super androgen like Halo might make a little more density and create added intensity, but it will be absolutely dwarfed in the quality muscle development that DHB will create, which can be run for 12 weeks ideally without toxicity issues and dramatic sides ever showing up. This is giving up very little in the long run for most of us, in most of our situations. Those compounds have their place in some circles but they aren't declared king...why is that? Because they don't do it all...they don't make us grow, while staying hard, strong and powerful. They serve a specific purpose without filling a large part of ALL our need at the same time. That's why we love tren but hate it with a passion in the same sentence. Why?...? Because it is a very effective and powerful compound...the most effective...but it feels like we are on a drug. We do it because it works so well even though it creates side effects that are a constant reminder of just how powerful this drug is. Bromo, Caber, Prami, night sweats, that aggressive energy (great in the gym but not necessarily in the personal lives for some...I know I've snapped at people I care about when I know in my heart I wouldn't normally have done that). I don't run it anymore but it was damn good when I did...but not so good at the same time. i felt like a chrouched tiger type of powerful...not a rhino feel that a drug like drol can give. I love that BUT it did come with a price. See I don't get to compete and I want to stay as healthy as I can...but the draw toward tren is legitimate and strong. I have always wished their was something that could bridge the gap, delivering a nice percentage of the benefits while losing the majority of the bad characteristics.
~~~~Is this a viable understudy we just haven't experienced?~~~~
There are testimonies that really make me feel that way. I felt like it made repped1-the- ripped1...without him even trying to play it up. I've talked to many that report this without leading them for a response. I can't possibly believe that my numerous conversations diversly sppread accross 6 respected boards could so repeatedly come to the same conclusion, without there being something there...I'm excited to run it and see. I would be excited to see more people to give it a whirl getting ready for summer so we would finally really know...the good, the bad, and the ugly...
The ugly I've found...there can be prostate issues for some at high doses. This is common for all DH derivatives, but is something to be taken seriously none the less. I talked with someone who had issues when he was running 600mg for 12 weeks. Some older documentation and his testimony were my example of this. It is otherwise decievingly well tolerated in comparison to the measurable and multifaceted benefits it delivers. Most great compounds like tren leave their footprint with us the entire cycle. We do our best, and we do well, but we live managing the sides. We can do it and in many cases it is worth it...BUT what if we didn't have to. What if we could cut down our dances with the devil, and sometimes do something that produced consistently great results without feeling that it is ALWAYS there.
~~~~THAT IS VALUABLE...IMHO~~~~
Good news is that 400mg per week will produce dramatic results. I believe Patrick Arnold's creation of 1ad hurt this compounds reputation because people associate it with a prohormone when it one of the most powerful naturally occuring hormones in existence. See 1ad converted to DHB in the body, and worked well ,but had to be taken in very high dosages orally 700-800mg to even hope to equate to 100-150mg/wk of injectable. VPX (makers of redline) did make an inj steroid labeled as a sterile oil oral which was the one and only same DHB we are talking about. A flat out steroid...and one of the most powerful ~naturally occuring~ hormones in existence. Needless to say the FDA caught this very quickly and ripped it off the shelves and it disappeared way underground for a long time, with only very select people having access through private ugl's with great powder contacts. I mean think about it...we all run deca and love it because it is a great anabolic despite the tricky 19nor sides. This is more anabolic and more androgenic by a large degree, to our most used anabolic cycle additions. Better in both areas, acccording to many but without pronounced side effects. It sounds to good to be true...but is that a good enough reason not to try it? Of course not! Geneza brought it back out a few wks ago in 200mg/ml last wk. Inj of 100mg/ml were very painful for many back in the day. IF they are really dosing this at 200mg and have found a way to get the pain down to test p levels I think you would see this product blow up massively as the general public catches on to the wave of great word of mouth it is going to get. Many other UGl's like a sciroxx and endosyn (has it in their new oil line already in the works and launching in April) and other good producers will carry it if the pain is becoming managable through newer production capabilities. I had my doubts on this part unless EO can help mitigate this problem, but I've spoken with people who are using now without this problem...and with the results. The jury is still out but w/in a couple of months we will be hearing whether geneza and others have managed to pull this off AND dosed their product properly. I KNOW OF NO ONE (well one guy...very old school...lol) who has used, who hasn't loved and praised what this compound does to the physique. It''s a unique and great steroid with ripped, dense results along with increased fat burning characteristics, even while on a bulker...sounds a lot like tren. Hope that helps paint a little perspective. Some could see this comparison as true or false...what's important is what YOU THINK. So say it so we can talk about it, and see what we come up with...the good, the bad, and the ugly...That's what a good board is about and that's why I love it here. I wish some of the respected vets would give it a run and speak their opinion...if it fits in their schedule of course... I'm done rambling late at night. HAHAHAA
I also say that IF YOU HAVEN"T USED...cross ur fingers!
Gamer
