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string_bean00
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mranak said:
LMAO @ "goat shit"!
LMAO @ "goat shit"!
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FORDMAN
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hahaha...big shot mranak...what are your stats. and why do some ppl have to be smart asses..if you cant answer my ?? its ok let somebody else answer it.
GymLift
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I'm 5'10", and I'm down to 185 lbs (I'm currently cutting). End of last year I was 145lbs. I have a lot to learn when it comes to training, but I am learning. I'm never done an Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cycle and at this time, I have no plans to do so. I continue to gain muscle mass and strength.
My advice was actually very serious. I really believe that testosterone is a much better cycle than Anavar@20mg or Winstrol (winny) by itself. Prices will vary of course, but the testosterone is usually a good bit cheaper as well.
As for post cycle therapy (pct), nothing beats the SERM drugs like Clomid and Nolvadex. I've seen many guys use those other 'supplements', often to no avail. It is odd really: those supplements often really will raise serum testosterone, yet the person is still depressed as if testosterone is still low. These supplements are totally unnecessary and _may_ work against you. Believe me, if Clomid doesn't restart your HPTA, then those supplements certainly aren't going to either.
My advice was actually very serious. I really believe that testosterone is a much better cycle than Anavar@20mg or Winstrol (winny) by itself. Prices will vary of course, but the testosterone is usually a good bit cheaper as well.
As for post cycle therapy (pct), nothing beats the SERM drugs like Clomid and Nolvadex. I've seen many guys use those other 'supplements', often to no avail. It is odd really: those supplements often really will raise serum testosterone, yet the person is still depressed as if testosterone is still low. These supplements are totally unnecessary and _may_ work against you. Believe me, if Clomid doesn't restart your HPTA, then those supplements certainly aren't going to either.
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FORDMAN
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185 is good weight for 5'10. how old are you....I just wanna add 15 pounds of muscle and i was thinking i could put that on with two cycles one with Anavar (var) and the other with winny...if someone thinks its not gonna happen and you are sure..then i would like to hear your explanation....i beleive any roid will add something..if i am wrong then tell me otherwise...on supps yes there is a lot of junk out there but i have heard that the brand tribestan did work for some ppl not to the extent that clomid does but it does also heard that horny goat weed works...no harm in trying plus do you really think i need a post cycle therapy (pct) say after 50 mg Winstrol (winny) for 6 weeks....i would love to hear what the experienced guys have to say about this. Thanks
lionhead
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I ran it for 6 weeks at 50 mg ED. If you think you wont need proper post cycle therapy (pct) after that you are kidding yourself. You WILL be shut down. And have no sex drive even on cycle. Horny goatweed and tribulus wont do jack shit, ive ran them both. Im at 210 lbs 6 feet. 10 % bodyfat. I ran them in the past with no success what so ever. Anavar will do little to nothing for you the way you will use it. Go with TEST AND PROPER post cycle therapy (pct). I would even recommend you not taking anything and go to the diet and training forum. On another note, if you cant afford Test you surely cant afford anavar.FORDMAN said:
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FORDMAN
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I will gain weight from anavar i am sure and i have full confidence in me. The only thing that might go against me is the dosage. I will be running @20 for 6 weeks. Thats all i can AFFORD. If this dosage hits me i will show you what it will do to me. Wait and watch.
Stone
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FORDMAN- peoples stats often have nothing to do with thier knowledge of chemical supplements. You come on this site claiming you want to learn, but end up just doing what you want. For the price you payed for your Anavar (var) you could have bought a HUGE test cycle along with all the anti-E's you'd know what to do with as was recommended. Aromitization with test is more dose related than anything else, and most won't recommend you go with over 500mgs/wk.
Their are other factors as well, such as sex drive etc... and a Anavar (var) or Winstrol (winny) only will not be fun... trust me!
And I'm sure it will work as you've stated, just as I'm sure that no Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) would also work for you-so don't come posting pics in 6 weeks saying I told you so because then you'll never know what a real cycle of test would have done.
Their are other factors as well, such as sex drive etc... and a Anavar (var) or Winstrol (winny) only will not be fun... trust me!
And I'm sure it will work as you've stated, just as I'm sure that no Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) would also work for you-so don't come posting pics in 6 weeks saying I told you so because then you'll never know what a real cycle of test would have done.
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FORDMAN
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diet works already wokout is narrowed down. I can put myself in an anabolic state. I have tried many routines and diet and thats all i have done for the last six years. Even recently i changed my workout routine it didnt workout all that well and i am back to my anabolic workout routine. Its really all science one rep on each set or one set can make you or break you, atleast that what i have seen for me...but everyone is different and i just know what works for me. I wont be cutting with anavar, i will use it to bulk..i like challenges and i like doing things that others wont and i like to be safe i do care about my overall health....If i can pull this it will make me very proud and i will think that all those years werent a waste...reason i am doing this is i know i can grow...six years ago i was a scrawny little guy @ 155....had plateaued many times inbetween and i have made it to 215...it can be done..we all have an anabolic state doesnt matter what your body type or your metabolism is...if you can find the anabolic state of your body..then nothing can stop you from growing.....my goal is to use little gear and make decent gains....i realise that i may never be huge and i dont want to be huge if it requires high doses just to maintain.....There will always be someone bigger than me.....from what i have seen in the guys from my gym is that they blow up for a few months and they shrink again...i dont care about looking huge for six months and then shrink to 1/3 or even 1/2...i dont care about looking good for summer...i want permanent results even if is half of what i could get with something else (dbol) to me what is more impressive is a person who is consistently the same weight day in and day out..that jis my goal to weigh the same...or else i will be hitting some dbols just to shock my freinds...just not me...i will up my diet even more so once on gear....JUST WANT TO SEE MY POTENTIAL.
Freind of mine has done two cycles of dbol's i saw him after 3 years back and i looked bigger and more cut than him. I wanna see what Anavar (var) does to me.
Freind of mine has done two cycles of dbol's i saw him after 3 years back and i looked bigger and more cut than him. I wanna see what Anavar (var) does to me.
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FORDMAN
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So far i like wahat i have read about sustenon 250...others have said it doesnt cause as much bloat as Enan...so i am leaning towards sust....probably will be doing sustenon and winnie or eq and winnie for my next cycle....the real reason i dont wanna do test is first. gyno scares me 2. dont know how to inject and i rather have a pro teach me how to inject than read on the website and trying it. I wanna do it right or i wont do it at all. 3.afraid of getting bacterial infection or fake test. 4. have read from many different boards that almost no sides with libido on Anavar (var) for 6 - 8 weeks....so far only read one where someone had a problem... 5. clomid fucks with eyesight so scared of this..this is the biggest issue actually clomid can give irreversible vision problems...........It wil all fall in place little by little.
1-Sustanon is test
2-You're not going to get gyno if you use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and have nolva on hand
3-Injecting is not hard, I thought it might be at first but it's really pretty simple
4-A bacterial infection from fake test isn't a common occurence at all, just do a source check
5-You're not going to have any libido sides on test, if anything it will increase
6-You still need clomid or nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) even if you use only Anavar. If you're really worried just use nolva
7-Anavar, and especailly Winstrol (winny) can fuck up your cholesterol levels
8-If you want to do it right listen to everybody here and use test!
2-You're not going to get gyno if you use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and have nolva on hand
3-Injecting is not hard, I thought it might be at first but it's really pretty simple
4-A bacterial infection from fake test isn't a common occurence at all, just do a source check
5-You're not going to have any libido sides on test, if anything it will increase
6-You still need clomid or nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) even if you use only Anavar. If you're really worried just use nolva
7-Anavar, and especailly Winstrol (winny) can fuck up your cholesterol levels
8-If you want to do it right listen to everybody here and use test!
StoneColdNTO
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thetopdog said:
Hahaha.........BUT he already knows more than you and I combined, he is one very smart dude.
I will never understand why guys like this even bother posting and asking any question, his mind was made up a long time ago and there is no changing his mind.
Personally, I am really looking forward to seeing those before and after pics from this huge cycle of Anavar @ 20mg/day for 6 weeks. Maybe he can make a "poll" and see if we all can figure out which is the "before" and which is the "after" pics., now that will be a great thread.
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FORDMAN
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Look i already said its too late to change my order ...i can't its gone through..yes next cycle i will try test and i knew test is sustenon......do i need it if i am only interested in running 250 mg sus and 50 Winstrol (winny), so far i am only interested in EQ Winstrol (winny) Anavar (var) and Sust..do i need a book or should just post here when i am gonna do my next cycle and take advice from others...Is it a waste to get a book in my situation...what do you think about world anabolic review.
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FORDMAN
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And i know i might not see any difference... as i said myself dose might be too low...but man that all i can afford and i got other expenses at the moment...maybe i wont see any difference but i still wanna give it a shot....ITS TOO LATE I WISH I COULD CHANGE MY ORDER BUT I JUST CANT ANYMORE. Later
FORDMAN said:
I getting ready to start a third cycle after 3-4 years off, and I also bought anavar with the same idea of gaining quality lean mass but after researching more I decided to save the anavar to stack it with a cycle for lean mass down the road. Why not save the Anavar (var) for a later date?? You already bought it but you don't have to use it.
Oldschool68
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A 10 lbs gain is very reasonable, always have post cycle therapy (pct) planned and aquired BEFORE beginning your cycle and monitor your health throughout.
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FORDMAN
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OLDSCHOOL68 Thanks man, i think its doable too....stonecold you might know about roids...but i know about WORKING OUT....u got a lotta attitude and really dont care for it.......i dont need this shit from anybody...rest of you guys i appreciate your help....i dont give a damn how knowledgable u are if you are full of yourselves......Peace fellows again you have been very helpful
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FORDMAN
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The more you tell me i cant do something i get even stronger and i will crush all barriers and tear down every wall that will stand between me and my destiny.........
That what doesnt kill me makes me stronger.......and you just feeding me stonecold with the fuel......
Iam out
That what doesnt kill me makes me stronger.......and you just feeding me stonecold with the fuel......
Iam out
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FORDMAN
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hahaha LOL@ stone it dont work like that man..my receptors are already filled up with the negative androgens i got from stonecold......sorry bro hey gimme some of your crap next cycle.....
Remeber the more you piss me off the BIGGER i will get....
Remeber the more you piss me off the BIGGER i will get....
