Popping the cherry!

hogman said:
20 weeks for a first cycle? Why such a long cycle?
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I was thinking the same thing and was surprised nobody said so earlier. Some here might disagree but bro don't run a 20 week first cycle- it's complete overkill & unneccesary. You will get noticeable gains from 12 weeks if you eat, lift, & rest right. I've run a bunch if cycles & the aftermath of a 20 weeker sucks. Not to rain on your parade but I think that's a mistake for more than a few reasons
 
I will definatly consider/contemplate this advice. My mind will probably change when I start noticing effects. Can anyone give me some info on the quad/knee tightness?
 
My last two injections were mid left and right quad and I got normal soreness on that site, but the tension/soreness moved down my leg right above my knee towards the outside peak of my quad. Is this normal? Why would the discomfort change locations? Is my gear stuck? If my description didn't make sense I'd be glad to post up some pics. bump
 
yea man happens to me sometimes-gravity just pulls the sauce down. shouldnt be a big deal. just keep an eye out for redness, fever and warm to touch.

when injecting i have found that pinching the skin really helps with the pain. also as others stated above-try to keep needle straight with lil movement once you have inserted the needle.

i made a thread about quad injections-Scarz posted this 70's army injection video-its funny, kinda lame-but some really great info in there. i can bump if you like. only thing i do a lil different-they pierce reallt fast -i go slower
 
Back to the 20 weeks..I m quite sure Massive s comment was based on HIS experience with a 20 weeker..
As I remember, he indicated diminishing returns after around week 15-16; and he was gonna do post cycle therapy (pct) and time off correctly, which means 24 weeks off..thats like half the year.
I think you ll be amazed at what you achieve with 12-16 weeks..and after time off you can get on..again..repeat.
I m not wagging my finger or telling you what to do by any means..go for it !!
You aint popping a cherry..your gang raping ! ( I m all for pillaging though !!)
 
newbie23 said:
yea man happens to me sometimes-gravity just pulls the sauce down. shouldnt be a big deal. just keep an eye out for redness, fever and warm to touch.

when injecting i have found that pinching the skin really helps with the pain. also as others stated above-try to keep needle straight with lil movement once you have inserted the needle.

i made a thread about quad injections-Scarz posted this 70's army injection video-its funny, kinda lame-but some really great info in there. i can bump if you like. only thing i do a lil different-they pierce reallt fast -i go slower
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i also saw that army video and it helped me a lot=].. as long as the soreness feels the same and doesnt vary I wouldnt worry too much where you feel it as long as its in that same leg or body part for that matter.. try glutes dude you can do em yourself and its hard to miss.. but if quads is what you feel comfortable with then stick with that but overall everythings looking good
 
also i know its frustrating to reconstruct your whole cycle but dude these guys know what their talking about.. 12-14 weeks is good you'll be happy you did and you'll have some left over to sell if not take again if thats what you want.. so shorten it man =]
 
I'm not pointing my finger I'm giving the kid good advice. Nobody with half a brain would reccomend a 20 week first cycle. Do what you want Rougen, just realize most of the guys saying it's all good are middle aged dudes running tremendous amounts of gear, who've forgotten what it means to run low doses, or are simply in testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) & never come off. My advice is an honest response from personal experince, Im not on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) & don't run pro BB amounts. The one problem here is people tend to take advice from people who are nowhere close to themselves & assume they're in the same boat as those giving the advice. With all due respect to these dudes, you guys should be looking out for beginers not encouraging misuse/abuse especially for a newbie. Do whatever you want dude I'm just venting. If you want to learn from your own mistakes go ahead
 
Massive123 said:
I'm not pointing my finger I'm giving the kid good advice. Nobody with half a brain would reccomend a 20 week first cycle. Do what you want Rougen, just realize most of the guys saying it's all good are middle aged dudes running tremendous amounts of gear, who've forgotten what it means to run low doses, or are simply in testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) & never come off. My advice is an honest response from personal experince, Im not on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) & don't run pro BB amounts. The one problem here is people tend to take advice from people who are nowhere close to themselves & assume they're in the same boat as those giving the advice. With all due respect to these dudes, you guys should be looking out for beginers not encouraging misuse/abuse especially for a newbie. Do whatever you want dude I'm just venting. If you want to learn from your own mistakes go ahead
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Nah bro it's not like that. I really appreciate the input and I know you've got WAY more knowledge and experience than I do. To be honest I felt like 10 weeks isn't quite long enough seeing as you don't get the full effects till week 4-6. 14-16 weeks sounds like the best option to me atm(granated I'm only 3 injections in). To be honest though, now that I waded into the water I don't know if I ever want to come completly out, if ya'll know what I mean.
 
I'll be updating each injection so I'll be keeping everyone posted. btw massive I really appreciate you chimming in bro.
 
I read through the thread sounds like your going to have some good gains hope you figure out what your going to run and keep the posts up would like to see how the gains come in
 
Waiting for the full effect is killing me! I injected yesterday....which is dumb I know I should of waited(flame on) I just had a plethora of time, so I was really able to sit down and get in a good injection. I'll be doing next injection sunday or monday. I don't know if it's the test or just in my head but I don't seem to be as sore the day after workouts? I like injecting is this weird?.........My first vial already only has about 6-7mL left and I'm already paranoid I'm running out lol anyone else get that feeling? I'm already putting money aside for a second cycle rofl! Around which injection should I be feeling noticible effects? 5th-6th?
 
i shot my quad in same area and had same results i had less pain in chest and glute so im sticking to them
 
Injected today. Today must of been my 5th(I thought it was the 4th?) injection because the needles I have come in packs of 5 and I used an entire packet up. No strength gains yet....slight increase in recovery but I think it's just in my head. Is it typical to not notice any kind of effects with the first 10mL? Forgot to aspirate but everything went smoothly, got a little bit of the test on the needle trying to get rid of the air bubble at the top of the syringe which burned my skin a little bit I think. Overall good injection slightly more pain, slight stingy feeling on the skin after removing needle. Training hard, sleeping, and getting in my meals. Any wisdom? I'm going to change my 1st post to eo3.
 
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