Post cycle therapy (pct) & Cycle Comments welcome .

[Jay007]

here is an educational video for you

RJ helps newbie

Ha HA lOVE IT .....
Diet squared
Training squared

Ps I got that cycle from the Massive newbie link ......

I Read up on the Profiles . So to be honest everyone is contradicting themselves here.

Ps I dont drink my calories either
I EAT my calories and supplement my diet with supplements ....

And I dont do endless Bicep Curls lmao

Nice video tho

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

it says right in the video what a first cycle should be. wether this is your first or not i would consider it your first.

I dont think the newbie info gave you that cycle, and if it did it was not meant for beginners.

you should never cycle without test. all AAS are suppressive to your natural T. so you have to at least supplement what you will not have due to suppression.

with that being said, just do test only 500mg a week like the video said

 

[Jay007]

it says right in the video what a first cycle should be. wether this is your first or not i would consider it your first.

I dont think the newbie info gave you that cycle, and if it did it was not meant for beginners.

you should never cycle without test. all AAS are suppressive to your natural T. so you have to at least supplement what you will not have due to suppression.

with that being said, just do test only 500mg a week like the video said

Was a cutting cycle , just check

Wk 1-11 Test Enanthate/Cypionate 400-500mg each week
Wk 1-10 Deca Durabolin 300-400mg each week
Wk 1-16 Nolvadex 20mg each day
Wk 13-16 Clomid

Few years back I ran deca with t-350 apex . Worked well , grew a lump tho in my chest , but I know i didnt do pct , I was a spastic and fucked it off

In the steroid profile tho it does say that running test p along side deca is suggested ???

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no nolvadex during the cycle. That is old school.

this cycle looks better but here is the problem, you said you got some lumps last time? How do you know if its estrogen or progesterone induced gyno? they are both treated differently.

If you run test alone and get gyno symptoms then you will know you are sensitive to estrogen, and that means you need to control it accordingly with an AI.

You just gotta research more my man, you dont know enough about the compounds you want to run ancillaries or how to do a proper post cycle therapy (pct). Me telling you what to do doesnt teach you anything.

Profiles are OK but most of the info is outdated.

 

[Jay007]

no nolvadex during the cycle. That is old school.

this cycle looks better but here is the problem, you said you got some lumps last time? How do you know if its estrogen or progesterone induced gyno? they are both treated differently.

If you run test alone and get gyno symptoms then you will know you are sensitive to estrogen, and that means you need to control it accordingly with an AI.

You just gotta research more my man, you dont know enough about the compounds you want to run ancillaries or how to do a proper post cycle therapy (pct). Me telling you what to do doesnt teach you anything.

Profiles are OK but most of the info is outdated.

Yea I know what your saying pal, I wont be starting them any time soon anyways , But when I do I will start with a test only etc

I do have a feeling Its was from the test as I did Deca for about 6 weeks ( I know pointless 6 weeks) And didnt get any sysmtoms , but again it was only for 6 weeks ish ..... with no pct

So ill find the best pct for me regards to gyno .... and go from there and see how I get on . Would it be worth running tesp P on its own or would I still be better With something like test c ???

Am I write in saying I would catch any side effects sooner with tesp p , Bacause its a shorter easter than say test c ?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

it doesnt matter what kind of test you use. Test is test, the ester is what changes. sides would come on quicker with prop, maybe stronger too, because of the shaper climb in serum T levels.

i hear what your saying about deca, but just cause you ran deca alone and didnt get bitch tits doesnt mean it wasnt progesterone induced gyno. Most, including me, beleive that prolactin gyno needs estrogen to flourish.

 

[Jay007]

it doesnt matter what kind of test you use. Test is test, the ester is what changes. sides would come on quicker with prop, maybe stronger too, because of the shaper climb in serum T levels.

i hear what your saying about deca, but just cause you ran deca alone and didnt get bitch tits doesnt mean it wasnt progesterone induced gyno. Most, including me, beleive that prolactin gyno needs estrogen to flourish.

Yea got ya .. I was just thinking that didnt make sense what I was saying with the test p etc after I wrote it Well Ill start of with a slow easter test and a good pct and go from there ..... I think thats the best bet .Last thing I want is a set of pamela's on my chest . Cheers for advice pal ..

PS i JUST wanted to use the chainsaw smiley as its cool

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

You look like you dont really even need em bro.

 

[alumni]

Just my opinion but the 500mg of test is a great starter, thats tons of T way more than you really need, so that will help growth as long as training and food and sleep are there, no need to stack for a newb, I hated decca gave me nasty night sweats just like tren.

every 4 days is great for stable blood levels i know from getting labs while on, I personally dont believe in waiting 2 weeks to start PCT its just that much longer your waiting to kick start natty levels to keep the gains you made, And 20-40mg of nolv is far superior to clomid, I used both and choose nolv. running exemestane with it is great since its a estro sucide drug.

And I fully advocate short cycles 10 weeks because after a long cycle and not enough PCT I felt like death! short and sweet unless you want to stay on for ever.

i would only run clomid pct if i was using tren or decca on cycle.


be careful because you can have estro rebounds long after cycle and you will wonder wtf is happening keep letro nolv clomid hcg exemestane on hand even when your not on just in case of emergency.

 

[Jay007]

You look like you dont really even need em bro.

Cheers Bro

 

[Jay007]

Just my opinion but the 500mg of test is a great starter, thats tons of T way more than you really need, so that will help growth as long as training and food and sleep are there, no need to stack for a newb, I hated decca gave me nasty night sweats just like tren.

every 4 days is great for stable blood levels i know from getting labs while on, I personally dont believe in waiting 2 weeks to start PCT its just that much longer your waiting to kick start natty levels to keep the gains you made, And 20-40mg of nolv is far superior to clomid, I used both and choose nolv. running exemestane with it is great since its a estro sucide drug.

And I fully advocate short cycles 10 weeks because after a long cycle and not enough PCT I felt like death! short and sweet unless you want to stay on for ever.

i would only run clomid pct if i was using tren or decca on cycle.


be careful because you can have estro rebounds long after cycle and you will wonder wtf is happening keep letro nolv clomid hcg exemestane on hand even when your not on just in case of emergency.

Sound . Ill definately keep some bk ... And Ill go with the 10 weeks , I dont want to be on them any longer than I have to ...

So run nolv with exemestane Straight after the last pin >.... 20mg-40mg

 

[ECKSRATED]

Your too light. Stop eating like a bird and double or triple your calories and you will get up to atleast 200 with nothing but food. Then start a cycle. And u say u put 7lbs on in a week??? So that means something wasn't right before that so stick to what u r doing and go natural.

 

[RJ]

Your too light. Stop eating like a bird and double or triple your calories and you will get up to atleast 200 with nothing but food. Then start a cycle. And u say u put 7lbs on in a week??? So that means something wasn't right before that so stick to what u r doing and go natural.

you're wasting your breath ECKS. Det got him to stop for now and do a first cycle of test only... thats all we can hope for the wee lad.

30-45lbs on a cycle. lol

Newbs.

 

[Jay007]

you're wasting your breath ECKS. Det got him to stop for now and do a first cycle of test only... thats all we can hope for the wee lad.

30-45lbs on a cycle. lol

Newbs.

I was taking the piss with that statement 30-40lbs , Just Because everyone seems to be obsessed with being over 200lbs....

I Werent planning on starting any cycle at the moment , something I was looking into it ,I know myself I can put on a good 10-15lbs.... From just upping my Carbs.

WEE MAN / 171lbs of pure muscle