oh I am aware of the vision issues, but not when you keep the doses around 50mgs ed.
Sarmssearch is a great company and the prices on the Sarms-4 is simply affordable for most researchers!
They are definately cheaper than RUI. I have never used SARM S4 but I may consider it after reading this thread. Im sure there is a log somewhere on this site of someone who used it
They are definately cheaper than RUI. I have never used SARM S4 but I may consider it after reading this thread. Im sure there is a log somewhere on this site of someone who used it
That one guys thread had lots of info, but I was expecting more out of his use, and if I remember correclty he almost went completly night blind on cycle, and judging from his pics, I wasn't impressed(had higher hopes). (Don't take offense bro's) but he was an older guy. I still want to try this shit though....
I'd like to know if you can stack it with Test and other AAS or if it should be used alone?
I'm definitely thinking about giving S-4 a try. I just want to make sure there are no other side effects.
It doesnt seem to make sense that the medical community trashed s-4 just for some blurred vision.There has to be more to it. Perhaps it was just that a pharmaceutical company bumped another. I'm curious....
S-4 is a nonsteroidal, arylpropionamide compound that activates certain androgen receptors, while having no effects or acting as an antagonist at others. GTx conducted a Phase I trial of S-4 about five years ago, but later dropped the compound in favor of a second-generation agent with the trade name Ostarine, which has completed Phase II trials in cancer cachexia and chronic sarcopenia.
It says here that S-4 was dropped...^^
quote from article:

ther are many different SARMs, S4 is the one that has had the best results that would apply to BB.
check out the GTX website, pretty cool stuff.
GTx. Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs)
Yes I know there are diffrent types of SARMS. The two that I've seen mentioned in the Bodybuilding world are S-4 and Ostarine. S-4 is a first generation SARM that the medical community stopped experimenting with . Now they are experimenting with the second generation SARM "Ostarine".
S-4 is not any superior for BB results then Ostarine.
My questions are:
Are there are any additional side effects that we dont know about here? Is the vision side effect the only reason why they trashed S-4 or did they trash it for another reason other then for side effects?Is it hard on your liver?blah?blah blah?
This is a drug that only made it through the first stage of medical testing. I want more info....
Yes I know there are diffrent types of SARMS. The two that I've seen mentioned in the Bodybuilding world are S-4 and Ostarine. S-4 is a first generation SARM that the medical community stopped experimenting with . Now they are experimenting with the second generation SARM "Ostarine".
S-4 is not any superior for BB results then Ostarine.
My questions are:
Are there are any additional side effects that we dont know about here? Is the vision side effect the only reason why they trashed S-4 or did they trash it for another reason other then for side effects?Is it hard on your liver?blah?blah blah?
This is a drug that only made it through the first stage of medical testing. I want more info....
Who said this is for human use anyway?
Is all for research use ONLY as far as I know.
I know if I were a sponsor and someone asks me these type of questions it will immediately throw a red flag and I would not sell him/her anything!
Sorry if I sound to harsh, just saying ....
I'm definitely thinking about giving S-4 a try. I just want to make sure there are no other side effects.
It doesnt seem to make sense that the medical community trashed s-4 just for some blurred vision.There has to be more to it. Perhaps it was just that a pharmaceutical company bumped another. I'm curious....
Lets face it bro the medical community does want ever makes the big drug companies the most money. Its been that way for decades now.