Should I try a RESTART now?

jomamma007

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so I'm suffering from adrenal issues and just realized this. Now I'm working on recovering, but want to try a restart as I feel this was the reason behind my most of my symtpoms.
Also being 22 years old i don't want to be on trt yet.

Should I hop off and try a restart or try to fix my adrenals this year then hop off when they are fully functioning? I know injecting test can affect the adrenals, the reason dhea goes down while on trt and I don't know if I should just get off testosterone yet.

I've felt a drastic mental change since beginning trt, feeling very positive and confident (had extreme anxiety problems before), but haven't felt the physical effects.
Kinda thinking that losing that mental edge plus being physical screwed up from adrenal fatigue is a bad combo.
 
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What does your doc recommend. Trying a restart is one thing. Throwing in the adrenals issue complicates matters. Also, can you remind me how long you have been on TRT now?
 
my doctor says I'm fine, and wants me to come off cold turkey lol.
Been on trt for 9 months now

CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 4.8 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL SO
RBC 5.12 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL SO
Hemoglobin 15.7 12.6-17.7 g/dL SO
Hematocrit 46.6 37.5-51.0 % SO
MCV 91 79-97 fL SO
MCH 30.7 26.6-33.0 pg SO
MCHC 33.7 31.5-35.7 g/dL SO
RDW 13.0 12.3-15.4 % SO
Platelets 259 155-379 x10E3/uL SO
Neutrophils 58 40-74 % SO
Lymphs 34 14-46 % SO
Monocytes 6 4-12 % SO
Eos 2 0-5 % SO
Basos 0 0-3 % SO
Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.8 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL SO
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.7 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL SO
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.3 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL SO
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL SO
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL SO
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % SO
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL SO

Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 80 65-99 mg/dL SO
BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL SO
Creatinine, Serum 0.95 0.76-1.27 mg/dL SO
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 113 >59 mL/min/1.73 SO
eGFR If Africn Am 131 >59 mL/min/1.73 SO
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 14 8-19 SO
Sodium, Serum 138 134-144 mmol/L SO
Potassium, Serum 4.2 3.5-5.2 mmol/L SO
Chloride, Serum 99 97-108 mmol/L SO
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 19-28 mmol/L SO
Calcium, Serum 9.7 8.7-10.2 mg/dL SO
Protein, Total, Serum 6.6 6.0-8.5 g/dL SO
Albumin, Serum 4.4 3.5-5.5 g/dL SO
Globulin, Total 2.2 1.5-4.5 g/dL SO
A/G Ratio 2.0 1.1-2.5 SO
Bilirubin, Total 0.8 0.0-1.2 mg/dL SO
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 57 39-117 IU/L SO
AST (SGOT) 21 0-40 IU/L SO
ALT (SGPT) 23 0-44 IU/L SO

Urinalysis, Routine
Specific Gravity 1.007 1.005-1.030 SO
pH 6.5 5.0-7.5 SO
Urine-Color Yellow Yellow SO
Appearance Clear Clear SO
WBC Esterase Negative Negative SO
Protein Negative Negative/Trace SO
Glucose Negative Negative SO
Ketones Negative Negative SO
1 of 3
Occult Blood Negative Negative SO
Bilirubin Negative Negative SO
Urobilinogen,Semi-Qn 0.2 0.0-1.9 mg/dL SO
Nitrite, Urine Negative Negative SO
Microscopic Examination Comment SO
Microscopic follows if indicated.

Lipid Panel
Cholesterol, Total 119 100-189 mg/dL SO
Triglycerides 63 0-114 mg/dL SO
HDL Cholesterol 41 >39 mg/dL SO
According to ATP-III Guidelines, HDL-C >59 mg/dL is considered a
negative risk factor for CHD.
VLDL Cholesterol Cal 13 5-40 mg/dL SO
LDL Cholesterol Calc 65 0-119 mg/dL SO

Iron and TIBC
Iron Bind.Cap.(TIBC) 341 250-450 ug/dL SO
UIBC 109 LOW 150-375 ug/dL SO
Iron, Serum 232 HIGH 40-155 ug/dL SO
Iron Saturation 68 HIGH 15-55 % SO

Vitamin B12 and Folate
Vitamin B12 936 211-946 pg/mL SO
Folate (Folic Acid), Serum 18.5 >3.0 ng/mL SO
A serum folate concentration of less than 3.1 ng/mL is
considered to represent clinical deficiency.

Testosterone,Free and Total
Testosterone , Serum 772 348-1197 ng/dL SO
Free Testosterone(Direct) 15.6 9.3-26.5 pg/mL BN

Hemoglobin A1c
Hemoglobin A1c 5.0 4.8-5.6 % SO
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Increased risk for diabetes: 5.7 - 6.4
Diabetes: >6.4
Glycemic control for adults with diabetes: <7.0

TSH
TSH 2.400 0.450-4.500 uIU/mL SO
Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S
T4,Free(Direct) 1.44 0.82-1.77 ng/dL SO
Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum
Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum 3.5 2.0-4.4 pg/mL SO

DHEA-Sulfate
DHEA-Sulfate 405.4 164.3-530.5 ug/dL SO

Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL SO

FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL SO

Prolactin
Prolactin 11.4 4.0-15.2 ng/mL SO

Prostate-Specific Ag, Serum
Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.3 0.0-4.0 ng/mL SO

C-Reactive Protein, Cardiac
C-Reactive Protein, Cardiac 0.71 0.00-3.00 mg/L SO
Relative Risk for Future Cardiovascular Event
Low <1.00
Average 1.00 - 3.00
High >3.00

Estradiol, Sensitive
Estradiol, Sensitive 19 3-70 pg/mL BN

GGT
GGT 11 0-65 IU/L SO

Magnesium, Serum
Magnesium, Serum 1.8 1.6-2.6 mg/dL SO

Insulin
Insulin 4.0 2.6-24.9 uIU/mL SO

Ferritin, Serum
Ferritin, Serum 64 30-400 ng/mL SO


Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 34.5 16.5-55.9 nmol/L SO

ACTH, Plasma 39.9 7.2-63.3 pg/mL SO

Reverse T3, Serum 18.5 9.2-24.1 ng/dL

No thyroid meds.

RT3 Ratio: 18.9
 
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Ask this genius doc of yours....
Would he pull off a diabetic patient from insulin "cold turkey" ?
would he pull them of thyroid meds "cold turkey" as well?
What if they were on SSRI's like Paxil, would your doc ask them to stop "cold turkey" as well ?
 
When you say come off cold turkey you mean he wants you to do a Restart right? You have secondary hypogonadism?

Just stopping without trying a restart would be a very bad idea.
 
When you say come off cold turkey you mean he wants you to do a Restart right? You have secondary hypogonadism?

Just stopping without trying a restart would be a very bad idea.

The way I interpret it is that the OP wants to try a "restart", there's no mention about the doc wanting to try a "restart".
Sounds like his doc wants him off "cold turkey" from TRT protocol so he can treat the adrenal issue.
 
so I'm suffering from adrenal issues and just realized this. Now I'm working on recovering, but want to try a restart as I feel this was the reason behind my most of my symtpoms.
Also being 22 years old i don't want to be on trt yet.

Should I hop off and try a restart or try to fix my adrenals this year then hop off when they are fully functioning? I know injecting test can affect the adrenals, the reason dhea goes down while on trt and I don't know if I should just get off testosterone yet.

I've felt a drastic mental change since beginning trt, feeling very positive and confident (had extreme anxiety problems before), but haven't felt the physical effects.
Kinda thinking that losing that mental edge plus being physical screwed up from adrenal fatigue is a bad combo.

Bro, IMHO you are not feeling the physical effects of TRT because of your adrenal issues. I know op started this thread in January, but if I can help you in any way I'll try. Look, I was not feeling the physical effects of any aas in my body just recently. As I started treating my adrenals, I am now feeling the physical effects of TRT. If I were you I'd personally throw your labs up on allthingsmale forum (dr. crisler) and ask for advice. Adrenals are a big deal and you want to make sure you are doing things correctly to get better instead of exacerbating the issue from receiving knowledge from misinformed dr's/ people. Remember the treatment of choice for adrenals is hyrdocortisone (when used correctly!). If you take too much of it for too long your adrenal glands will shrink. Trust me when I say you don't want to be on HC or medrol, etc for the rest of your life as your life will revolve around a pill. Also, sometimes being on a proper dose of TRT will actually help your adrenal recovery. If you stop cold turkey, you may be doing more harm to your adrenals. Just my .02
 
Bro, IMHO you are not feeling the physical effects of TRT because of your adrenal issues. I know op started this thread in January, but if I can help you in any way I'll try. Look, I was not feeling the physical effects of any aas in my body just recently. As I started treating my adrenals, I am now feeling the physical effects of TRT. If I were you I'd personally throw your labs up on allthingsmale forum (dr. crisler) and ask for advice. Adrenals are a big deal and you want to make sure you are doing things correctly to get better instead of exacerbating the issue from receiving knowledge from misinformed dr's/ people. Remember the treatment of choice for adrenals is hyrdocortisone (when used correctly!). If you take too much of it for too long your adrenal glands will shrink. Trust me when I say you don't want to be on HC or medrol, etc for the rest of your life as your life will revolve around a pill. Also, sometimes being on a proper dose of TRT will actually help your adrenal recovery. If you stop cold turkey, you may be doing more harm to your adrenals. Just my .02

Well I'm already well on my way with my restart, but I've stopped caffeine and I'm sure my adrenals are healing up. At the end of my SERMS I'll get some bloodwork with dhea and cotrisol levels to check. Anything else I can do, I'm not going to take any HC.
 
Well I'm already well on my way with my restart, but I've stopped caffeine and I'm sure my adrenals are healing up. At the end of my SERMS I'll get some bloodwork with dhea and cotrisol levels to check. Anything else I can do, I'm not going to take any HC.

Good for you bud. Just curious how did your Dr diagnose the adrenal issue?

Just focus on hitting bed early, waking up early, kickstarting your metabolism by eating first thing in the morning, sleeping in an all dark room, eating good carbs, fats, and lean meats, and keeping stress to a minimum. Basically, correct whatever issue got you to that point.

Restarts can be tricky business. Did you use hcg and if so what dose and how long?

good to hear you are doing well!
 
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