Simple first cycle (Test E)

[Cobra Strike]

Run HCG the last 2 weeks of cycle + 2 weeks after last shot, 500iu E3D, 5000iu total. Running HCG the whole cycle will desensitize your hpta and hurt recovery. Nolva for 4 weeks is absolutely fine for post cycle therapy (pct) after HCG. This post cycle therapy (pct) is enough even after a 1000mg cycle.

Also, keep letro or another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and nolva on hand incase gyno occurs (which it more then likely won't).

the info you have noted here is incorrect bro.....it is clinically proven that hcg wont desensitize the leydig cells until you reach amounts of 5000iu or more in a single shot. Also that is not how you run hcg. And nolva is too weak to run alone for recovery...why risk the most important part of your cycle to a weak post cycle therapy (pct) product such as nolva??? I do believe nolva is good to run with clomid but should not be ran alone....stick around and you will learn somethin

 

[NastyNate500]

So, should HCG be pinned on the same day at test? Should it be broken up to pins twice a week (250iu each) or just do the full 500iu once a week?

 

[Cobra Strike]

So, should HCG be pinned on the same day at test? Should it be broken up to pins twice a week (250iu each) or just do the full 500iu once a week?

just pin it on mon and thurs...250iu ea time...if your nuts shrink though bump that to 500iu each time

 

[NastyNate500]

So nuts shouldn't shrink while on the cycle if HCG is working properly?

If I'm reading correctly, am I correct in saying that HCG is used to assist in your body reaching homeostasis faster once a cycle is finished?

 

[Matt Jax]

So nuts shouldn't shrink while on the cycle if HCG is working properly?

If I'm reading correctly, am I correct in saying that HCG is used to assist in your body reaching homeostasis faster once a cycle is finished?

HCG can lead to gyno, especially for those who are more prone. That's why I chose not to run it with my cycle.

Many bodybuilders have completed succesful cycles and post cycle therapy (pct) without using HCG.

 

[NastyNate500]

What about HCG being run during the cycle with Aromasin 12.5mg ED?

 

[alexus hensicus]

Yeah ill be doing the same cycle as you nasty just not with the hcg.

 

[Cobra Strike]

HCG can lead to gyno, especially for those who are more prone. That's why I chose not to run it with my cycle.

Many bodybuilders have completed succesful cycles and pct without using HCG.

yes hcg highly aromatizes but an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would help that out....and its never a good thing for your testicles to shut down successful or not

 

[Cobra Strike]

What about HCG being run during the cycle with Aromasin 12.5mg ED?

you will be fine with that....if you notice gyno signs then bump your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) up to 18.75 (3/4ml)

 

[Cobra Strike]

So nuts shouldn't shrink while on the cycle if HCG is working properly?

If I'm reading correctly, am I correct in saying that HCG is used to assist in your body reaching homeostasis faster once a cycle is finished?

basically. It helps your body return to the natty test levels faster

 

[NastyNate500]

I see concerns about HCG causing gyno during the cycle if run too long. Is this a possibility? And is that one of the reasons Aromasin is dosed at 12.5mg ED?

 

[bowzar]

to keep your estrogen levels in check and so you dont get gyno

so how do u know when to stop running it then?

 

[Cobra Strike]

so how do u know when to stop running it then?

you stop after pct....how is your body going to produce gyno or high levels of estrogen when your not taking anything?

 

[Cobra Strike]

I see concerns about HCG causing gyno during the cycle if run too long. Is this a possibility? And is that one of the reasons Aromasin is dosed at 12.5mg ED?

like I said bro...you will be fine with aromasin...and titrate if needed

 

[bowzar]

to keep your estrogen levels in check and so you dont get gyno

yeah but its bad to have heaps low estrogen levels , u still want some.... so how would u know when to stop running it.?

 

[NastyNate500]

Okay, now on to alcohol pads or at least sterilizing the injection site and top of vial.

Do you guys actually purchase alcohol pads or are you using cotton balls with a bottle of alcohol?

 

[OmegaReign]

I use the alcohol pads.

 

[NastyNate500]

Do you just use one for both the injection site and vials?

 

[Nikoli]

lol thats 1 funny post. everyone has different question
i didnt use HCG for my first cycle used it for my second though.
my first was test +dbol ... its good to use it thou if u know how to use it.. HCG is kind of hard to do . if u have 5000iu u need to add B water and shit.

 

[doitright24]

guys, its not that complicated! lol run the hcg, i dont care what anyone else says, it helps and as long as you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand you have no worries with gyno. run the hcg. and its not har to run like nikoli said either, you recon 5000iu with 2ml bac water and every .1ml is 250iu. its not hard at all.

sterility is something i am very particular about, a lot of people dont even clean the stoppers and injection site, but i do. i use the pads too, they are very handy. be sure everything that is going in you is clean.

good luck.