STOP dissin Dbol!!

Either way, I'm getting way off track. Back to the original question, Why put your body through no test that long? Why? What are the benefits
 
Either way, I'm getting way off track. Back to the original question, Why put your body through no test that long? Why? What are the benefits
why not, dbol is stronger than test and replicates the sense of well being, libido, etc that test does
plus adding more androgens is not always the right answer
imo, less is more
 
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Ban these 2 yahoos , they don't listen and will be responsible for some young punk doing a dbol only cycle! I have never even done a real cycle but know from all these guys and the personal logs I have searched on here that it's ludicrous!

I'd like to see a picture of your physiques too by the way? NO HOMO, but I bet you look like a couple of fucking clowns after a dbol only . Do a log on cycle and a month after post cycle therapy (pct), bet you look like the fuckin marshmallow man.
 
Ban these 2 yahoos , they don't listen and will be responsible for some young punk doing a dbol only cycle! I have never even done a real cycle but know from all these guys and the personal logs I have searched on here that it's ludicrous!

I'd like to see a picture of your physiques too by the way? NO HOMO, but I bet you look like a couple of fucking clowns after a dbol only . Do a log on cycle and a month after post cycle therapy (pct), bet you look like the fuckin marshmallow man.

yeah bro, im going to hand feed the teenager dbol
oh the injustice of a dbol only cycle(which is better than any ph btw)
i did dbol once, didnt like it, but to each his own

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why not, dbol is stronger than test and replicates the sense of well being, libido, etc that test does
plus adding more androgens is not always the right answer
imo, less is more

Look, no matter what you or I are gonna say, we're both not gonna agree on this. It's your own personal choice of what you want to run and thats fine. I'm done with this though.
 
Look, no matter what you or I are gonna say, we're both not gonna agree on this. It's your own personal choice of what you want to run and thats fine. I'm done with this though.
i respect you for not resorting to name calling bro!
at least we can argue like men
 
Dude post a pic , fuck the link! I just don't know why you are arguing with these members that have so much credibility on here about dbol only cycles. They clearly know something you do not. I have one thing to say, WINNING! fuck dbol liver rotting only cycles.
 
dont know how the pic applies to this arguement


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i cant get these pics to work


agree with you on oral cycles though!
ph's are the worst yet easily available to the young
 
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Pic applies because most users want to start AAS to improve there physiques And strength , not to look like a bloated piece of shit. I think I've seen these guys in my gym by the way too, Lifting heavy weights, about 220 then the next month 180 and weak as fuck with jaundice so bad there eyes are yellow! Lol no.

By the way,

Pro hormones are not easier to get then steroids.
 
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Pic applies because most users want to start AAS to improve there physiques And strength , not to look like a bloated piece of shit. I think I've seen these guys in my gym by the way too, Lifting heavy weights, about 220 then the next month 180 and weak as fuck with jaundice so bad there eyes are yellow! Lol no.

By the way,

Pro hormones are not easier to get then steroids.

i hear ya, i see it alot
the worst part is, you rarely see them in the gym off cycle
my last workout partner was like this, met him in 07, after about 4 months, we cycled together, found out he was just ending a cycle when we met, and since then, he only comes to the gym when hes on
i see alot of teenagers at my gym like this

i ask them why they lost so much weight, and they respond with "i got a cold"
i told them they shouldnt come to the gym as i dont want to catch that cold
he later admitted he was using after he found out i had used before
 
This is the most ignorant ongoing debate I have seen. Yes dbol will incease strength and weight faster than test most likely. Great. But does that mean you use it in a cycle by itself. Fuck no you don't. Simply put retarded.

Honestly I don't care what you think but all you are doing is promoting this shut to a new guy who wants to believe it's a good idea and will think your argument is great even though everyone else knows it's a bad idea

This thread offically sucks.
 
because in reality, without the continuous use(1-2 cycles a year, every year) of hormones you will eventually go back to your genetic self

please stop saying this. you sound like a moron. the only reason you don't keep gains is because you are relying on the gear for your gains.

I was off juice for 4 years and never returned to my 'genetic self'. you know why? Because I i don't do what you do. i train my ass off and eat like an animal and used the gear as a tool... not as a shortcut.
 
please stop saying this. you sound like a moron. the only reason you don't keep gains is because you are relying on the gear for your gains.

I was off juice for 4 years and never returned to my 'genetic self'. you know why? Because I i don't do what you do. i train my ass off and eat like an animal and used the gear as a tool... not as a shortcut.

no i dont, i rely on working out naturally to keep my gains, and i dont expect to keep what i gain by artifically increasing my hormone levels unless i frequently achieve those artifical levels over time

ive worked out for 17 yrs bro(of which aprox 30 weeks have been on juice, 30/884 weeks or 3%), its a great hobby and i know that in reality, im not going to keep that much of a 10 week cycle every 4-5 years(10 weeks roiding compared to 198 weeks of being natural)
thats just a false expectation if i think otherwise

i view juice as some temporary fun that i can have with my hobby and my wife and should be used in moderation due to the sides(mental dependence, hdl/ldl, lipids,joints, etc)

in your opinion, how much would you expect to keep of a 10 week cycle every 4-5 yrs? lets say test 400mgs a week for 10 weeks(standard cycle)
keep in mind, im 32, am the sole provider of my family of 5, have changing work schedules, diet, etc

to be honest, my next cycle is for the sex drive alone(all my best memories of last cycle were with my wife). not that i dont have one now, but at 32, i dont have what i did in my early 20s and my wife's sex drive is peaking(around age 30)
might as well knock the bottom out as much as possible while the opportunity exists because from what ive heard, once she hits 40, you can kiss sex goodbye
of course, the gains in the gym will be fun too
 
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in your opinion, how much would you expect to keep of a 10 week cycle every 4-5 yrs? lets say test 400mgs a week for 10 weeks(standard cycle)
keep in mind, im 32, am the sole provider of my family of 5, have changing work schedules, diet, etc

no one could tell you that. my point is its useless to stop your natty test like that if your not gonna work your ass off to keep those gains. I can understand the libido thing, but i would use natty mthods for that as well.

Just too much of a chanceof messing up ur endocrine sytem using gear for just that.

if you use it for that thats fine, just seems retarded to me.

besides, i don't do 10 week cycles. short cycles to me make it harder to keep gains as you said homestasis is a killer. but it can be done. check out koi's thread.
 
"once she hits 40, you can kiss sex goodbye"

I wouldn't be so sure, I'm 28 and my current girl is 43, she is in better shape than me and wants it all the time.
 
"once she hits 40, you can kiss sex goodbye"

I wouldn't be so sure, I'm 28 and my current girl is 43, she is in better shape than me and wants it all the time.

haha. no shit. i didn't see that part.

5x10 - women lose interest in sex as they get older because men get complacent and spend less time making their woman feel smoking hot and more time watching sports and only wanting a quick nut.

its no surprise why marriages fail or the sex stops at least. women age as do men and you gotta spend even more time making them feel hot.
 
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