Sustanon Help

Seperate it bro.... Test e for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) then import it into the body building world.

Sust in the Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) world then import it into the bodybuilding world.

Why when importing Sustanon (sust) into the bodybuilding world does it change more dramatically then test e?

Can you give me a logical explaination?
 
Jesus that is not what I'm saying....

My God man!

That's not what ur saying, but that's what u said. I can quote it for u if u'd like me to ?

Seperate it bro.... Test e for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) then import it into the body building world.

Sust in the Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) world then import it into the bodybuilding world.

Why when importing sust into the bodybuilding world does it change more dramatically then test e?

Can you give me a logical explaination?

The reason is b/c Sus has Prop in it. Way shorter half life. Basically what I said from the get go.

I don't really care to talk about it anymore. Det, Diesel and I agree that Sus should be pinned EOD. U think 2x a week is fine. Their both opinions I guess, but Det and I gave more logical reasons on why u should pin Sus EOD. So if the OP is smart he will pin EOD. Det and Diesel are highly repp'd here as well, just food for thought :dunno:
 
a little article i found on the topic...

If a steroid user uses a long acting testosterone (such as testosterone enanthate), they will inject it once or twice each week. At the end of each week, the long acting ester has tapered down to its original levels and threatens to drop below that level if a new injection is not made. With sustanon, this is not the case due to it's blend of four esters, including the two short ones - propionate and phenylpropionate. As a result of these two shorter esters, more frequent injections are necessary to keep stable blood levels are make full use of all esters in the blend. If a user injections sustanon only once per week for example, full use is not as easily made of the propionate and phenylpropionate esters which release quickly and taper off at a faster rate due to their shorter half lives. The issue of sustanon injections remains heatly debated online. Many users claim that injection only twice a week or even once a week is sufficient for sustanon. However, from my experience, many of these same users are running high quantities of sustanon (as much as 750mg and more each week). The logical conclusion here is that sustanon can be injected only once a week, but as stipulated above, this is done only at the loss of the shorter acting propionate and phenylpropionate esters. Injection one gram of sustanon weekly will still take full advantage of the shorter acting isocaproate and decanoate esters which combined account for 64% of the total blend. 64% of 1000mg weekly is equal to 640mg of active steroid which, in my opinion, can be achieved through more frequent injections at a lower dose to optimize the effect of the short acting esters, accounting for a total use of 100% of the blend. Every other day, or daily injections is the best way to insure the maximum effects of all four esters in the blend.
 
That's right I'm in the dog house....
One of the gods rained judgment down apon me.

You just see want you want to see motorhead. WTF ever I dont hate ya.

Fuck sust I'm running Test E and Prop....
 
a little article i found on the topic...

If a steroid user uses a long acting testosterone (such as testosterone enanthate), they will inject it once or twice each week. At the end of each week, the long acting ester has tapered down to its original levels and threatens to drop below that level if a new injection is not made. With sustanon, this is not the case due to it's blend of four esters, including the two short ones - propionate and phenylpropionate. As a result of these two shorter esters, more frequent injections are necessary to keep stable blood levels are make full use of all esters in the blend. If a user injections sustanon only once per week for example, full use is not as easily made of the propionate and phenylpropionate esters which release quickly and taper off at a faster rate due to their shorter half lives. The issue of sustanon injections remains heatly debated online. Many users claim that injection only twice a week or even once a week is sufficient for sustanon. However, from my experience, many of these same users are running high quantities of sustanon (as much as 750mg and more each week). The logical conclusion here is that sustanon can be injected only once a week, but as stipulated above, this is done only at the loss of the shorter acting propionate and phenylpropionate esters. Injection one gram of sustanon weekly will still take full advantage of the shorter acting isocaproate and decanoate esters which combined account for 64% of the total blend. 64% of 1000mg weekly is equal to 640mg of active steroid which, in my opinion, can be achieved through more frequent injections at a lower dose to optimize the effect of the short acting esters, accounting for a total use of 100% of the blend. Every other day, or daily injections is the best way to insure the maximum effects of all four esters in the blend.

Good find, and I agree 100% !!

That's right I'm in the dog house....
One of the gods rained judgment down apon me.

You just see want you want to see motorhead. WTF ever I dont hate ya.

Fuck sust I'm running Test E and Prop....

LOL it's all good man. Make sure u pin that Prop EOD or ED brudda HAHAHA. Just messin with ya but being serious at the same time.
 
Ythrashin has many valid points.

My first cycle was Sust @ only 250 mgs e/w and Winstrol @ 50 mgs eod. I gained a solid 18 lbs.

Im older and just turned 40 in May and I've always shot Sust only 2 x a wk ang made great gains. One of my best buds just shoots 750 mgs e/w in one shot and is a beast.

Peeps can micro analize all they want but when it comes down to it.....one can split it up eod or shoot it all in one day and make great gains.

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Personally I feel Sust sux and Test E and or Prop are definately a much better way to go.

Everyone agree's with that, but u also forgot about Cyp lol.

Ythrashin has many valid points.

My first cycle was Sust @ only 250 mgs e/w and Winstrol @ 50 mgs eod. I gained a solid 18 lbs.

That's all well and good, but that's not what a proper 1st cycle should look like. I mean I know people that rep straight Deca no Test @ 500-700mg a week. But am I going to tell people it's ok b/c I know people that do it, have good gains and don't have any DD problems ? NO cause it's the wrong advice.

Im older and just turned 40 in May and I've always shot Sust only 2 x a wk ang made great gains. One of my best buds just shoots 750 mgs e/w in one shot and is a beast.

That's a lot of gear to run in 1 shot. Assuming it's 250mg/ml that's 3CC's and no one would really recommend doing that.

Peeps can micro analize all they want but when it comes down to it.....one can split it up eod or shoot it all in one day and make great gains.

No one said that he wouldn't get good gains doing it once a week or 2x a week. I was just saying the proper way to run it is EOD for the best gains. I don't think anyone can argue that. Now that said, why would anyone say to run it any other way ? Why would u recommend the 2nd or 3rd best way to run it ?

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Jesus motorhead...if you like pinning eod for no good reason go ahead bro. Your just being difficult...nobody is that dang hardheaded.... lol
 
Jesus motorhead...if you like pinning eod for no good reason go ahead bro. Your just being difficult...nobody is that dang hardheaded.... lol

I don't mind pinning EOD, actually I don't mind pinning ED either. It's not that I like to or anything, but I don't mind to. But if that's how I'm going to get the best effects out of the gear, why wouldn't I ? That's just stupid. I'm not being hardheaded either, if I think (know) someone has made an incorrect statement I'm going to say what I need to say. Is there something wrong with that ?
 
So...............what if a guy has sust350?

30mg test prop
60mg phenylprop
60mg isocaproate
100mg decanoate
100mg enanthate.............? eod,ed or twice a week?
 
So...............what if a guy has sust350?

30mg test prop
60mg phenylprop
60mg isocaproate
100mg decanoate
100mg enanthate.............? eod,ed or twice a week?

Twice a week....

Someone will disagree though because of 30 measly mg of prop.
Even when he is wrong...:tounge2:
 
Twice a week....

Someone will disagree though because of 30 measly mg of prop.
Even when he is wrong...:tounge2:

I agree with you! I just picked some up today for a rainy day....twice a week is good enough for me. I don't think your wrong, I bet I can gain just as much or better than a guy that pins ed or eod day, i'm a hungry boy! like a third world folk at a free buffet!
 
So...............what if a guy has sust350?

30mg test prop
60mg phenylprop
60mg isocaproate
100mg decanoate
100mg enanthate.............? eod,ed or twice a week?

The concentration does not matter comparing 250 to 350mg/ml. If it's got prop in it at all it should be done at least EOD. If u don't want to pin EOD then don't run Sus, simple as that.

Twice a week....

Someone will disagree though because of 30 measly mg of prop.
Even when he is wrong...:tounge2:

Of course I will b/c ur wrong buddy....
 
The concentration does not matter comparing 250 to 350mg/ml. If it's got prop in it at all it should be done at least EOD. If u don't want to pin EOD then don't run Sus, simple as that.



Of course I will b/c ur wrong buddy....

Right on! But i'll be pinning twice a week thanks...pinning ed,eod,2x a week, 2-3 diff compounds in seperate injections on one day....doesn't bother me. I will get enough out of 2wice a week to be comfy, and get the most out of my next cycle..
 
personally i hit sustanon twice a week (tuesday & friday) at 500ml/week and everyday other then those two i hit prop at 50ml/day. dbols and deca are in the mix as well.
 
Right on! But i'll be pinning twice a week thanks...pinning ed,eod,2x a week, 2-3 diff compounds in seperate injections on one day....doesn't bother me. I will get enough out of 2wice a week to be comfy, and get the most out of my next cycle..

That's fine and I agree with u that u will still get "enough" out of only pinning 2x a week. I didn't say anything against that. I simply stated that it's best to run Sus EOD. Not 1 person can disagree on that.

That being said if someone asks "how often should I pin Sus" which was the OP's question in the title. The answer should be EOD. Now if ur a 2x a week kind of guy simply state that EOD is best but u'll still get decent gains out of 2x a week injections.
 
Jesus motorhead...if you like pinning eod for no good reason go ahead bro. Your just being difficult...nobody is that dang hardheaded.... lol

pinning eod or M/W/F is DEFINETLY the way to go with sus...because it has prop in it which is a short ester..needs to be shot eod for the best gains..
 
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