T3/Clen
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TwinTowers
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caddy said:
Yes , i need to know also.
Im on:
T4oo 600mgs per week
EQ 400 mgs per week
.25mgs L-dex ed
10mgs L-nolva ed
Hells
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clen 2 weeks on two off, i start with 60mcg if its your first time id go with 40mcg your most likely gonna get the sides but hey if your doin it THEN DO IT!! pyramid up 20mcg E3D dont tapper down theres no need theres really not a set limit on how high to go just judge it on how you deal with the sides. T3 never done it but it doesnt know btwn muscle and fat so it gonna eat muscle so if you dont want that i would recomend Winstrol (winny) or Anavar (var) while on...
decaboy315
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you have to taper down......you cant keep going up from 60.....anything past 120 is useless
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decaboy315 said:you have to taper down......you cant keep going up from 60.....anything past 120 is useless [/QUOTE
sorry bro but tappering down is useless, oh and with the liquid clen from research companies ive hit 200. This isnt my first rodeo son, please post why you cant keep going up from 60, anything past 120 is useless and tappering down is a must, and ill correct you
decaboy315
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well if we're talking tabs here then how is it possible to run...whats he gonna b taking 9 tabs a day,thats insane...especially for a first timer...
its not like its going to work any better at 200mcg anyway....you can get the same effect with far less sides at tops of 100mcg-140mcg.....theres a saying on the board sometimes less is more.........
it would be a waste to take 10 tabs a day
its not like its going to work any better at 200mcg anyway....you can get the same effect with far less sides at tops of 100mcg-140mcg.....theres a saying on the board sometimes less is more.........
it would be a waste to take 10 tabs a day
decaboy315
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also if its better to not taper down then why doesnt every 1 do that then.........b/c most people i know taper down here and i think every 1 here knows there stuff
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so you know your wrong about tappering down right? And you know you can keep going up from 60mcg right? and you posted yourself 100mcg-140mcg so your admitting your wrong that anything over 120 is useless, and oh yea that saying "sometimes less is more" well far more often MORE=MORE, there are studies proving this (one here on this very site) and 10 tabs a day would'nt be a waste just more drastic sides and results. plus im posting from personal use, and IMO your not...plus the biggest determining factor of fatloss anyways is diet+cardio
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THERE IS NO REASON ON EARTH TO TAPPER DOWN!!! lol if they are tappering down they dont know what they're doing and its a waste, clen works at higher doses better if youve done it then you know that so why not just run it at the peak dose which is giving you the desired results rather than wasting half the two weeks tappering down DUH!!!
decaboy315
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lol.....where am i admitting im wrong...i am posting this from personal use.......oxyflux clen.... i tried to b a hardass and up my dose past 160 but all i got were crazy headaches n crazy shakes.....and i still lost the same amount that i did went i went up to 100mcg........wat r u gonna say next that u dont have to taper t3..............im alos guessing ti didnt work with those crazy doeses b/c 16% bf is um....
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well your not justifying yourself so im just going to take that like you dont know what your talking about or you would have made sense of yourself. so you tryed going to 160 when you just posted anything past 120 is useless wtf obviously i have more knowledge than you on this subject so just stop, and actually there are some studies and bros that dont tapper up just down on T3 thanks for mentioning that. 16% bf is um what? hahahahahahahahahaha bro ive been feeding this body 5 thousand calories a day 250+ grams of fat and 300+grams of protien for about 4 months and am continously raising each every couple of weeks and will continue to for the next 7 weeks, you just called me fat that hilarious i am fat and by the way im getting ready for a show in january when ill be 9 or less % bf you crack me up boy
decaboy315
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so you tryed going to 160 when you just posted anything past 120 is useless wtf ..........
ye i tried it n then came to the conclusion from experience and research that its useless..............
i would like to see ...wait not like...love to see a pic of you at 9% and then ill show you my pic when im at about 9 % in lets say mid sept.........we'll then see who has the more knowledge cuz im sure it will show from waht i look....dont bother posting again cuz im not gonna read...peace
ye i tried it n then came to the conclusion from experience and research that its useless..............
i would like to see ...wait not like...love to see a pic of you at 9% and then ill show you my pic when im at about 9 % in lets say mid sept.........we'll then see who has the more knowledge cuz im sure it will show from waht i look....dont bother posting again cuz im not gonna read...peace
Hells
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useless for you i guess, but not for me thats how these things work. boy i would love to know how old you are, like i love how you think you know so much and just recently ive been reading through this site at some of your post and responses and its amazing the nerve you have trying to correct me, my advice to you is give up nothing youve posted here is correct except that 120mcg FOR YOU is useless but how you can say that as advice for somebody else is beyond me...continue learning give the effort training diet and knowledge and try and i wish you the best of luck....
decaboy315
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this whole post started b/c 2 clen newbies wanted to know how to run it................i dont think good advice to tell a newbie that wants 2 run a new compund to run it to 200mcg and oh ye dont taper it....good info there..............yo caddy u can hit it like this...this is what i would recommend for you.....
22334445444332........2 weeks on 2 weeks of
t3.........i would recommend 6 weeks.....start at 12.5 mcg then ramp up to 100 then down to 12.5......you gotta come down on this b/c this can mess with your thyroid.....
in between if u want u can use e/c/a.........u can run this with test prop,winny,tren........
22334445444332........2 weeks on 2 weeks of
t3.........i would recommend 6 weeks.....start at 12.5 mcg then ramp up to 100 then down to 12.5......you gotta come down on this b/c this can mess with your thyroid.....
in between if u want u can use e/c/a.........u can run this with test prop,winny,tren........
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decaboy
stats 5'10 185 15% from 6-24-04 (not on a cycle)
stats 5'10 200 12.5% 7-18-04
dropped 2.5% BF and added 15 lean pounds in 24 days
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM somebodys getting they're storys mixed up i think sooooo...plus im bulking for 4 months and at 16% bodyfat while your not bulking and at 15% bf or wait let me guess you just got your number mixed up.....EXPOSED!!!!! WAHAHAHAHA!
stats 5'10 185 15% from 6-24-04 (not on a cycle)
stats 5'10 200 12.5% 7-18-04
dropped 2.5% BF and added 15 lean pounds in 24 days
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM somebodys getting they're storys mixed up i think sooooo...plus im bulking for 4 months and at 16% bodyfat while your not bulking and at 15% bf or wait let me guess you just got your number mixed up.....EXPOSED!!!!! WAHAHAHAHA!
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decaboy315 said:
i didnt advise to run it up to 200 i said up until you feel comfortable with the sides(lol) and you dont have to tapper let me repeat why you dont have to, Clen works its best at high doses for most 80mcg and up, tappering up is only so you can adjust to the sides and get in a comfort zone once your there thats where the most fat burning takes place tappering down is pointless DUH!! whats hard to understand about that? just stop taking it...just like if you were on a AS cycle, this is logical decaboy just take a minute and open your mind and learn something GEEZ!!
heres what i recomend
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100
(like i said before go as high as you can tolerate then drop it after two weeks wait two weeks and hit it up again to your liking)
Caddy, sorry your thread got these two guys into a pissing contest. LOL
First off, to answer your questions:
1. Although you can go up to 200mcg on Clen, just go up to 100mcg like Hells stated and see how you feel (also what Hells said). Over 120 is NOT useless at all, its just you'll see for your first go around that 100mcg will probably be enough. If not, increase as you can.
Also, when you come off your two weeks and then get back on, most guys can start right back up at the peak dosage they left off at (say 100mcg instead of tapering up again from 60mcg). My wife goes up to 80 mcg/day and she only tapers once when she starts. After that she starts each cycle with that dosage. Make sense?
2. OK, for T3, you want to do something like this.
5% taper up (start at say 25mcg)
45% peak
55% taper down
Don't stay on longer than 6-8 weeks. And I would peak at a dosage of 100mcg/day and I would stay around that number for your first time to see how it works.
Now, with that said, this shit is serious, your f**king with your thyriod here, so be careful. Yes, you will need a steroid, preferably at least 500mg/week of test. Some guys still experience muscle depletion with that, so keep your eyes peeled.
T3 will eat the fat off of you, but you will notice some sides. Sweating like no tomorrow, not just on your face and body, but weird places like your feet and hands. Also, prepare for some lethargy.
Lastly, make sure your diet is wicked clean once you come off for at least 2-4 weeks as you may have some rebound (not a definite), but just to be safe, this is a good measure until your thyroid gets back to normal.
Hope this helps.
First off, to answer your questions:
1. Although you can go up to 200mcg on Clen, just go up to 100mcg like Hells stated and see how you feel (also what Hells said). Over 120 is NOT useless at all, its just you'll see for your first go around that 100mcg will probably be enough. If not, increase as you can.
Also, when you come off your two weeks and then get back on, most guys can start right back up at the peak dosage they left off at (say 100mcg instead of tapering up again from 60mcg). My wife goes up to 80 mcg/day and she only tapers once when she starts. After that she starts each cycle with that dosage. Make sense?
2. OK, for T3, you want to do something like this.
5% taper up (start at say 25mcg)
45% peak
55% taper down
Don't stay on longer than 6-8 weeks. And I would peak at a dosage of 100mcg/day and I would stay around that number for your first time to see how it works.
Now, with that said, this shit is serious, your f**king with your thyriod here, so be careful. Yes, you will need a steroid, preferably at least 500mg/week of test. Some guys still experience muscle depletion with that, so keep your eyes peeled.
T3 will eat the fat off of you, but you will notice some sides. Sweating like no tomorrow, not just on your face and body, but weird places like your feet and hands. Also, prepare for some lethargy.
Lastly, make sure your diet is wicked clean once you come off for at least 2-4 weeks as you may have some rebound (not a definite), but just to be safe, this is a good measure until your thyroid gets back to normal.
Hope this helps.
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