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244 lbs. Had to take yesterday off, worked 20 hrs straight got off at 4 am... chest/traps today... was feeling strong as fuck, fell victim to mirin myself in the mirror a few too many times lol.
 
Gibsonator said:
244 lbs. Had to take yesterday off, worked 20 hrs straight got off at 4 am... chest/traps today... was feeling strong as fuck, fell victim to mirin myself in the mirror a few too many times lol.
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i love going to the gym after getting off work. especially after a 20 hour day.
 
245 lbs. Movin on up! Last pin for week 9 today. Will be switching to sustanon end of next week. Will keep it the same right around 600mg/wk. Interested to see if there will be any difference with that... back/triceps later. Working Saturday again damnit but happy Friday anyways brothers
 
245 lbs as week 9 comes to an end. Goal weight has been reached, and being that I put on this 15 pounds much better than anticipated my goal is now 255. It's doable. Will need to increase cals. Time for my morning shake and off to hit legs/biceps...
 
couple simple pointers to add that 10 extra pounds of body weight by the end of your cycle.

- up your carbs
- add very heavy strength based training sets to yours workouts. if you been training in say the 8-15 rep range, keep doing that but add several heavy sets to your workouts too. try a set of 3-5, for multiple sets. the heavy work load will not give you the greatest pump in the gym , but it will break down and create micro tears in the muscle fibers. these tears stimulate fluid/water retention at the site. which will then make your muscle hold more water and look fuller and thus put on more body weight .
and the added carbs will help with this as well. you'll get bigger, fuller, and stronger.


note: this is not 'bad' water weight . the muscles are made up of 70% water to begin with . the more water and glycogen you can force into the muscle the bigger , fuller and stronger you will be.

note: ^ this is the exact opposite advice i would give if you were prepping for a show and needing to be hard and dry,, but for putting on 10 pounds of weight and more fullness it works.
 
Thanks brother! Will do on upping the carbs and heavy sets. Currently what I do most the time is do a few light high resets working up to what I can do in the 3-5 rep range. Hit that for 3 sets then drop down to what I can do 10-12 reps for 3 sets last set dropset. Either that or I pyramid up to what I can hit 3-5 reps and back down. What is your take on that type of training?
 
Gibsonator said:
Thanks brother! Will do on upping the carbs and heavy sets. Currently what I do most the time is do a few light high resets working up to what I can do in the 3-5 rep range. Hit that for 3 sets then drop down to what I can do 10-12 reps for 3 sets last set dropset. Either that or I pyramid up to what I can hit 3-5 reps and back down. What is your take on that type of training?
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absolutely like it ,, its a great way to increase your total volume (and volume is a key attribute for Hypertrophy) without unnecessarily fatiguing yourself. you leave enough in the 'tank' to hit the top of the pyramid and your heavy working sets (but you did lots of volume working up to that) . then on your way back down the pyramid after hitting your heavy heavy sets, you can go lighter and achieve failure with lighter weights.
 
Also roush before my cycle my macros were low carb, low fat high protein. During this cycle it has been high carb medium Fats high protein. I get the majority of my carbs in via 1st meal (shake) pre & post workout meals. That's has been helping tremendously. Honestly I never want to go low carb again, I feel great and have so much more energy. But no bread. For some reason I just look bloated when I eat bread on a regular basis. I stick with potatoes, rice, pasta and oatmeal
 
Roush said:
couple simple pointers to add that 10 extra pounds of body weight by the end of your cycle.

- up your carbs
- add very heavy strength based training sets to yours workouts. if you been training in say the 8-15 rep range, keep doing that but add several heavy sets to your workouts too. try a set of 3-5, for multiple sets. the heavy work load will not give you the greatest pump in the gym , but it will break down and create micro tears in the muscle fibers. these tears stimulate fluid/water retention at the site. which will then make your muscle hold more water and look fuller and thus put on more body weight .
and the added carbs will help with this as well. you'll get bigger, fuller, and stronger.


note: this is not 'bad' water weight . the muscles are made up of 70% water to begin with . the more water and glycogen you can force into the muscle the bigger , fuller and stronger you will be.

note: ^ this is the exact opposite advice i would give if you were prepping for a show and needing to be hard and dry,, but for putting on 10 pounds of weight and more fullness it works.
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This ^^^^ very good Roush, I mean right on with the water and the two Notes you put in. Great cycle training advise.
Thanks for this input Roush and I hope many listen and understand. It's not even rocket science Simple understanding of some very basic dynamics, yet so overlooked. :wavey:
 
For sure great advice. Most of us know the fundamentals of lifting and dieting by now but it's easy to get off track or caught up in a bad program. Honestly this is my first time actually trying to put on weight on purpose in years, it's been the opposite trying to lose weight. Had a friend who was competing in men's physique who just had the most insane shredded torso I was so fixated on getting there but for a guy my size it just wasn't in my cards. I was miserable on my diet and everyone was telling me I was too skinny and looked sick. So I gave up on that. Slowly increased my cals and moved back up to 230 from 205. I'm sitting at 245 very well and I think I would be pretty beast around 265 but I gotta get there the right way. Anyways thanks for chiming in guys
 
Ur like the kid that doesn't look at the sticky Mike. Lol jk bro...
34 years old, started cycle at 230, currently 245. Ran a cycle of test e 500/wk 2 years ago, decent gains, didn't know shit lol. Currently running 300 test e/300 deca e3d. .25 prami ed, .25 dex eod. Cals are around 4300, 35/35/30. Cycle goals are to put on lmm of course and increase strength. So far so good. Finishing up week 9 of 16. Will be switching to sustanon next Thursday and dropping deca after week 14, and possibly running winny last 4 weeks. Have caber and nolvadex on hand for pct. Just got my hcg as well so I'll blast that in the end. I will look up info on how to go about that before I bug you guys lol. That good enough? Think I covered it all...
 
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bigben66 said:
Well done OP.... a well planned cycle, and hopefully you have tweaked it following good advice above.

I'd personally run the Deca a touch higher than 400mg and MOST DEFINITELY either have Prami on hand - or even better take it at a low dose throughout the cycle.

Once you get Deca dick - it takes a little while to get that Prolactin down again.

Why don't you post up your revised cycle with adjustments made re: advice - and we can give a final critique before you get the ball rolling.

Welcome to the boards buddy, reps to you for a sensible plan. :)
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Deca dick? Wtf just read this lol no such thing 250mg test will keep any man functioning just have to watch estrogen and prolactin wont be a problem
 
Oh cause you were going back in time I get it. Absolutely no such thing bro my shit is like a fucking steel Rod within seconds lol. But maybe different people react negatively towards deca idk just glad I dont
 
Oh don't think I mentioned I'm 6'4" if I had to guess somewhere around 14.79 % body fat. Ok I have no idea. But I'm not fat so fuckoff
 
Gibsonator said:
Ur like the kid that doesn't look at the sticky Mike. Lol jk bro...
34 years old, started cycle at 230, currently 245. Ran a cycle of test e 500/wk 2 years ago, decent gains, didn't know shit lol. Currently running 300 test e/300 deca e3d. .25 prami ed, .25 dex eod. Cals are around 4300, 35/35/30. Cycle goals are to put on lmm of course and increase strength. So far so good. Finishing up week 9 of 16. Will be switching to sustanon next Thursday and dropping deca after week 14, and possibly running winny last 4 weeks. Have caber and nolvadex on hand for pct. Just got my hcg as well so I'll blast that in the end. I will look up info on how to go about that before I bug you guys lol. That good enough? Think I covered it all...
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Didn't get that but it's cool. See I just wanted you to reiterate so I didn't have to look back or what ever?

AND... slow down my friend , that didn't cover it ! :dunno:

Gibsonator said:
Oh don't think I mentioned I'm 6'4" if I had to guess somewhere around 14.79 % body fat. Ok I have no idea. But I'm not fat so fuckoff
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Ah ha ! :) now ya got it. See I was trying to figure out where the hell was all that weight was...6'-4".
As we get to know each other sometimes it takes me a little longer to remember how tall and what BF% you guys are holding. :scratchhe


Thanks fat boy .... :elephant:
 
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