championgain
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Yeah man, this is da real sh*t 
Test E + Dbol cycle
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championgain
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Test E 500mg/week 1-10
NPP 350mg/week 1-8
Still dunno if l will add d-bol
NPP 350mg/week 1-8
Still dunno if l will add d-bol
championgain
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Hello Guys,
So that's it. l'm 3 days off my cycle. Will start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after 2 days and keep it for 14 days, then will continue post cycle therapy (pct) with nolvadex for 3 more weeks. l'm at 204 lbs so in total my weight went from 176 to 204 lbs = 28lbs in total. l will add some pics for u, dont know if u will see many difference but l see some.
Though l gained some fat & water. Do you think that after post cycle therapy (pct) l should look better ? l mean will some water and fat go away l should loose some % of bf ?
Anyway the pics.
So that's it. l'm 3 days off my cycle. Will start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after 2 days and keep it for 14 days, then will continue post cycle therapy (pct) with nolvadex for 3 more weeks. l'm at 204 lbs so in total my weight went from 176 to 204 lbs = 28lbs in total. l will add some pics for u, dont know if u will see many difference but l see some.
Though l gained some fat & water. Do you think that after post cycle therapy (pct) l should look better ? l mean will some water and fat go away l should loose some % of bf ?
Anyway the pics.
championgain
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Well yeah, mostly my mass went to back/legs/shoulders , though l can't f*kin find out how to blast those biceps. My tri's seems to grow ok from whatever l do ( my arms are now only 16" and even though they are only 16 most of it comes from triceps..) but l cant grow that biceps. l tried everything 12-10 rep range , 6-8 rep range , 4-6 rep range, 2 excercises 3 excercises like everything ! My Trainer said that we will try to do only dumbbell work for some time so they should improve but l doubt it and think that sometimes genetics play a role it doesnt matter u juice or not if ur arms grow they grow if not then not..
barrysanders
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Good job! I can notice some mass. Are you planning on doing another cycle after PCT?
championgain
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Thanks man, well u know how they say : once u try it - u cant stop. l have planned my next cycle it will be like this :
1-10 Test E 500mg/week
1-8 NPP 350mg/week
Though l will go for some leaner gains with some cardio added so it will be a bit different than this one.
Dunno if l will add dbol or just let my liver rest since npp kicks in fast.
BUT! l wont start cycle until 2011 01-02 , 4-5 months recovery and rest with nutrition training resting and supplements. l like it but l'm not addicted to do it nonstop.
warbird
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Ive seen some ppl had good results when they stopped train some body part that took most of your gains (i.e. legs/back) and focus on training only arms or chest like twice a week.
Try to train them twice a week on your next cycle and dont change rep-range (I say about 12-15 for crazy pump). You can throw in some kind of drop sets, super sets, maybe some partials. I hope this will help you with your plateu.
warbird
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Way too long. You will lose all your gains within 2-3 months without juice.
Give it a rest for about 1 month and continue to cycle.
Maybe you should try some short-acting stuff next time?
leanbody
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nice work, dude. Warbird has a point, but I think you should see how it goes. You will undoubtedly lose some water and bloat, but if you keep up with the clean diet and training you shouldn't lose all your gains. get some blood work done in a month and see where you are at. That should guide you as to when you should do another cycle.
championgain
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Heh, thanks guys,
Well about cycle maybe l will start it a bit earlier it all will depend on how l will feel, also on my material situation and so on.
Btw what mainly shoud l check at my doctor?
And 1 more thing. Yesterday l started creatine monohidrate 20g/day and since yesterdays evening through all night and till this morning l have some sharp pains in my heart. They are not constant but like 1 each minute or smth. like that. Can it be from creatine ? Never had those on cycle though until l started creatine.
Well about cycle maybe l will start it a bit earlier it all will depend on how l will feel, also on my material situation and so on.
Btw what mainly shoud l check at my doctor?
And 1 more thing. Yesterday l started creatine monohidrate 20g/day and since yesterdays evening through all night and till this morning l have some sharp pains in my heart. They are not constant but like 1 each minute or smth. like that. Can it be from creatine ? Never had those on cycle though until l started creatine.
leanbody
man on a mission
I'd check your cholesterol, test levels and kidney/liver function. You want to make sure your natty test rebounds and that you don't end up lowering good cholesterol.
'bout the creatine - is it straight or in a mix like SuperPump? Some of those have caffeine, etc in them. I never heard of the chest pains with it though, seems like a pretty benign supp to me. Maybe it's some sort of muscle cramps?
warbird
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championgain
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It's plain creatine and l will add Xplode today. Maybe only muscle cramps, though l think it's heart after all. Anyway l feel better today, so maybe it will go away. We will see.
And thanks for info about blood test. Will do that after about month.
And thanks for info about blood test. Will do that after about month.
championgain
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Ok,
So today l'm 5 days off cycle, my weight is still the same. No changes.
Now the bad part...
Today l made first injection of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 hours ago. And what l can tell - this f*ckin sh*t HURTS! And hurts really really bad. l mean when l was injecting testosterone l didint feel anything .. Now when l started injecting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) it's like sharp knifes were ripping my ass apart. The pain was so bad that my head started to spin and l though l will pass out so l pulled out my syringe fast and went to my window for some fresh air and after 5 min l was fine, but l didint made the full injection like l mean l needed to inject 1ml/1000IU and l only made 0.7-0.8 about 700-800IU , not such a big loss but... what will l do next days when l prepared syringes with 2ml injections... omg....
So today l'm 5 days off cycle, my weight is still the same. No changes.
Now the bad part...
Today l made first injection of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 hours ago. And what l can tell - this f*ckin sh*t HURTS! And hurts really really bad. l mean when l was injecting testosterone l didint feel anything .. Now when l started injecting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) it's like sharp knifes were ripping my ass apart. The pain was so bad that my head started to spin and l though l will pass out so l pulled out my syringe fast and went to my window for some fresh air and after 5 min l was fine, but l didint made the full injection like l mean l needed to inject 1ml/1000IU and l only made 0.7-0.8 about 700-800IU , not such a big loss but... what will l do next days when l prepared syringes with 2ml injections... omg....
warbird
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Why are you doing this Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) crap? You're so young and you are not a pro-juicer. I think you're way too paranoid about post cycle therapy (pct). Get some nolva and you will be fine.
A friend of mine who ran deca (!) and dbol last year havent made any post cycle therapy (pct) and he felt really good =)
A friend of mine who ran deca (!) and dbol last year havent made any post cycle therapy (pct) and he felt really good =)
championgain
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Becouse post cycle therapy (pct) is as important as the cycle, whats the point run cycle 10 week and then just loose half of ur gains after ? l play with my health so l dont want to loose the muscle l gave some of my health for. So l better suffer the pain now and be happier after post cycle therapy (pct) than later be sorry for not doing a heavy post cycle therapy (pct). l know that this post cycle therapy (pct) is heavy and people do it for heavier cycles, but the better post cycle therapy (pct) u make - the more u keep so whats the point in not doing the best post cycle therapy (pct) u can ? And doing the standart nolva/clomid post cycle therapy (pct) l didint becouse clomid is bad for eyes sometimes and my vision is not the best now so l dont want to mess with it.
championgain
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Ok so just quick update - 7 days off cycle , in post cycle therapy (pct) with hcg now today 2nd shot of hcg 2000IU it was in 1.7ml~ this time l was prepared for the brutal pain so l finished it all and when l took the needle out OMG l couldnt walk for 5 mins and now l think its a bit getting better hope there wont be pains of walking these following days. 3 more injections left and when 14 day mark come l start Nolvadex.
BTW ! l gained +1kg kg now during 7 days of post cycle therapy (pct)
BTW ! l gained +1kg kg now during 7 days of post cycle therapy (pct)
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