Test E/EQ Spring Cycle

Dlove said:
Thats hilarious man and not many people would know. Take your girl out to a nice dinner and get her drunk and tell her there was someone special in your family named Winstrol (winny) and they had a cat called primo, lol
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I wish, except as soon as I said it she was like "No, we're not naming our kitten after steroids. She's too knowledgeable about it to let me do anything like that lol.
 
BalcoBob said:
Milk I'm going to vegas in June 4th and I'm in week 10 of my cycle. I still have another 4 weeks left to my cycle My weight is 210 and my body fat is 9 percent I'm 6'1 I have some clen on hand and was thinking about taking it. The Problem is this A I'm scared because I will be getting done with my cycle the week I go up to Vegas and I know I will be drinking a lot. I have never been, and I'm going up with a bunch of my girlfriends. How can you go to vegas and not drink? Also I'm wondering how much bf could I cut in the next month? with the clen? Last thing, I ran Clen about 6 months ago and when I took it I got the WORST CRAMPS EVER. I mean it was so bad I thought I was gonna die. I couldn't move my whole body was cramping. Maybe I took to much for the first time. I cramp pretty easy! Could I buy some taurine and take it? Also when using clen how much cardio should be done 20-30 mins? Should workouts consist of high intensity? Also I have been using a lot of pre-workout drinks and caffine drinks before my workouts, do you use any preworkout drinks such as noexplode or super pump 250?
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Going to Vegas is your choice man, personally I would have planned a little bit better. The only thing I could suggest would be cut the cycle short by 2 weeks or extend it another 2 weeks. The ball is in your court.

If you're really 9% bf, you should already be cut to shreds and shouldn't be worrying too much about dropping more body fat. The Clen will help you drop your body fat more though, I'd say you could easily drop another 2% if your diet and training are on point.

As far as the cramps, Taurine/Potassium/Water is the only thing I could suggest. I don't get the cramps too bad from Clen, but that's what I use no matter what.

Cardio preference is up to you. I have had a lot of success doing cardio in the morning on an empty stomach, but I've also had success doing it after a lifting session. Generally, I do lower intensity training because I hate cardio and it makes it more bearable. With that being said, I'm going to start PLing in July, and I will be doing sprint work then.

I've used a bunch of different pre-workout supplements and caffeine products. As far as I'm concerned, the best NO product I've used was SuperPump250.

Next time you have these types of questions, post them in the Anabolic Forum, you'll get more insight in the higher trafficked areas.
 
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kjunman said:
how much weight have u gained, strength, and how has the bf changed ... up or down.. ?
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I have gone from 231lbs at about 13% body fat or so to 240lbs at about 11% body fat. Thus far, I'm pretty happy with the changes in my weight/body fat.

Strength has gone up pretty significantly.

Incline DB Press 105's/5 --> 120's/5
Flat Bench 305 --> 345
Squat ~375 --> 465
DB Shoulder Press 70's/7 --> 85's/6
Bent Over Rows 275/6 --> 385/6
Rack Pulls 525/2 --> 585/1

Those numbers are from Day 93 (Post 301), except for the Rack Pulls which were recent. I haven't been going too crazy worrying about #'s recently, but I have seen good gains all around.
 
kjunman said:
good job boss..how many more wks u gonna go?
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I'm going to be on til June 1st or so. It could be a couple days more or less depending on a couple things. Right now I'm finishing up school, moving, moving into a new apartment, changing gyms, etc... So alot is riding on how smooth the transition is. I don't plan on running any anabolics other than 1-T Tren til 2010, so a couple days/weeks during this cycle isn't going to make or break me.
 
MilkDaScow said:
I have gone from 231lbs at about 13% body fat or so to 240lbs at about 11% body fat. Thus far, I'm pretty happy with the changes in my weight/body fat.
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Okay so how many people have told you it's not possible to add muscle mass AND loose body fat?


I bow down to you o great milk man - show me the way and i will follow.........
 
Day 121

375mg Test Enanthate... left quad
60mg Anavar... 3-20mg doses throughout the day
2 pumps AIFM

A20: Chest, Shoulders, Tris

Flat Bench 225/10, 275/5, 305/4, 335/1 (really work on keeping my elbows tucked)
Incline Fly-Press 75's/6-4, 75's/6-3, 75's/6-2 (flyes until failure, presses until failure)

Behind the Neck Smith Machine Presses 145/2, 165/10, 185/8

Dips bw/16, bw/12, bw/10 (was going for 50 reps total)
Rope Pushdowns 130/15, 130/12, 130/12

*felt a little bit flat today, didn't have great sleep and didn't feel all that energized
*worked on keeping the elbows tucked on all my benching sets, thinking that I could have done more weight but I sacrificed it to work on the PLing benching form
 
Nice chest workout Milky! too bad you couldn't go heavy and had to use the pussy weights, but I agree, better to work on PL form.

Bahahahahahaha!

I want to try those incline fly presses - looks like you'd get a great pump & burn out of those. I've also been pouring over the you tube shit on PL form. Still not quite happy enough with where I'm at to change it though - maybe in a few months. Later man - good luck w the move to the new aptment - is that with the gf? sharing a toothbrush -whole 9 yards?
 
So no posts in a while from Milky....hmmm... knowing you that can only be a good thing! I guess school ended and you've been livin large! LOL

Soak it up dude!
 
I'm trying to stay off the forums right now because I am too busy to get sidetracked on here. I'm graduating tomorrow, these last few days have been a lot of packing and a lot partying, and then I have to transition into a new apartment, etc... It should be fun, but when I get back on track I'll have all the time in the world for the boards.
 
hey boss i have a question.. if one were to do a cycle like this with a lean bulking diet and volume training.. as in 20-15-10..... with a cycle like this is it possible to achieve the same or simlar results as u are getting? it would be for strength and endurance and a lil extra size with minimal bf gain for MMA..

wk 1-4 t-bol 75mg/ed
wk 1-5 igf 60mcg/pwo/billaterally
wk 1-16 test eth 750mg/wk
wk 1-15 eq 600mg/wk
wk 12-18 Winstrol (winny) 50mg/ed
wk 6-16 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu 2x wk
wk 19-23 nolva 40/40/20/20/20
wk 19-23 igf 60 mcg/pwo/billatterally
 
Update

Alrighty. Now that I have a minute, I'll let you guys know where I stand.

I just moved into my new apartment after packing up my other one at school, graduating, partying, and taking a bunch of finals.

The diet has been absolute shit, basically just not eating enough of what I should and trying to get calories in at all costs... so they aren't what they should be. Haven't trained in 5 days, which I'm not freaking out about because I tweaked my back last workout and could use some rest. I need to get a new gym membership at the gym I checked out recently and get the ball rolling. I'll be logging again shortly, just bear with me.
 
leanbody said:
Nice chest workout Milky! too bad you couldn't go heavy and had to use the pussy weights, but I agree, better to work on PL form.

Bahahahahahaha!

I want to try those incline fly presses - looks like you'd get a great pump & burn out of those. I've also been pouring over the you tube shit on PL form. Still not quite happy enough with where I'm at to change it though - maybe in a few months. Later man - good luck w the move to the new aptment - is that with the gf? sharing a toothbrush -whole 9 yards?
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Weight is relative, so for me that felt weak. I definitely want to work on the PLing form so I can save my precious joints.

The incline fly presses are awesome, you should definitely check them out.

I just moved into the apartment and the girlfriend is moving in in a couple weeks. I'm pretty excited about it.
 
kjunman said:
hey boss i have a question.. if one were to do a cycle like this with a lean bulking diet and volume training.. as in 20-15-10..... with a cycle like this is it possible to achieve the same or simlar results as u are getting? it would be for strength and endurance and a lil extra size with minimal bf gain for MMA..

wk 1-4 t-bol 75mg/ed
wk 1-5 igf 60mcg/pwo/billaterally
wk 1-16 test eth 750mg/wk
wk 1-15 eq 600mg/wk
wk 12-18 Winstrol (winny) 50mg/ed
wk 6-16 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu 2x wk
wk 19-23 nolva 40/40/20/20/20
wk 19-23 igf 60 mcg/pwo/billatterally
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I've never used T-Bol or IGF, so it would be tough for me to give you a honest answer about those. As far as the Test/EQ and Winstrol (winny), you should have less water retention with that cycle and the strength gains should be pretty good. EQ might gas you though, so you might want to reconsider that if you are training for MMA.

I don't do volume training, so I can't comment on that either.
 
Day 128

750mg Test Enanthate... right quad
175mg Test Propionate... left quad
*missed an injection earlier in the week so I doubled up today
*took last Enanthate shot and I'm going to be running 200mg Test Prop EOD for the remainder of the cycle...
*missed my first Anavar dose today, so I took 40mg in one dose

*NO TRAINING

*moved into my new apartment today... working on getting the cable and internet set up (right now I'm using some unsecured network in hopes I don't get kicked off for the time being)
*going to be painting a couple rooms tonight with my step-dad and hopefully getting into the gym tomorrow
 
And just an fyi... Day 123 I trained Back and Bi's, but I forgot to log it...

I'm going to be training today and I'm going to get back to Day A: Chest, Shoulders, Tris
 
Day 130

200mg Test Prop... lower right quad
10 pumps Sustain Alpha
2 pumps AIFM in the AM and PM

Day A21: Chest, Shoulders, Tris

Flat Bench 225/10, 250/8, 275/5
Hammer Strength Incline 90/10, 100/8, 100/7

DB Shoulder Press 70's/8, 70's/8, 70's/7
Cable Side Raises 40/10, 40/10

Rope Pushdowns 100/12, 100/12, 100/12

5 minutes of cardio on the never ending stair machine... just wanted to check it out

*Didn't feel strong today (I'm still adjusting to everything around here), but I had a pump that was almost painful. Overall, I was happy with the training for the day.
*Joined a new gym today... it was a former Powerhouse and it's pretty freaking awesome. It's got 300lb cable stacks, multiple Squat and Power Racks, up to 150lb DB's in 5lb increments, and a set of 200lb DB's. I'm really happy that I was able to join this kinda gym and the membership fee isn't all that bad either ($39 bucks a month).
 
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