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ball22a

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I would like to share my experience with newbies...

I went on a 500 mg SUS , 400 mg /wk DECA ..... 10 deca 16 sus week cycle last year.

Did the appropriate post cycle therapy (pct) for 8 weeks

So far this year I have been to the doctor many times because I still don't feel right
some of the test I have been subject to are ...
A fine needle bi-optsy of my thyroid gland (extremely painful)
Tested for Addisions disease ( kidneys)
Brain MRI for pituitary gland

and If you like your hair... I had the hair of a 20 yr old now my hair looks like its 60yrs old.

I'm posting this not to be an ass but to let people know this stuff my not be as safe as some would have you believe
 
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I can't believe you ran 400mg Deca for 16 weeks for your first cycle. No wonder you haven't recovered.

You can't really blame this on steroids but rather have to blame yourself for poor planning. I'd be willing to bet you would've been fine on 500mg/test for 10 weeks.
 
With that said I'd also try to run some HCG/Nolva to help get your natural test levels back. Also, post your age, how long you've been off and what your test levels were at exactly. There have been people that have gotten their natural levels back after long cycles or having low natural test levels for extended periods of time.
 
ball22a.........You are in your 40's and did that for a first cycle......WOW

Other than your hair thinning, what is your problem? Sounds to me like your HPTA is still shut down and even if it does half ass recover, you'll probably be a candidate for HRT.
 
My test level was low normal , I feel like crap though , tired all the time. The hair loss has me pissed off though. The ENDO Dr. can't seem to figure out what's wrong
 
I'm not clear on this.. You are blaming a one time cycle for being the reason you had to go thru some tests? What is the conclusion of those tests, other that you normal test is on the low end?
 
StoneColdNTO said:
ball22a.........You are in your 40's and did that for a first cycle...
You were probably in the low normal test range when you started and now having lost some hair you reminisce that it WAS that of a 20 yr old. And I'm sure going from feeling great back to where you are now is depressing. If all these tests aren't showing you the answer, it might not be hormonal but rather mental. Just a thought.
 
Dude have you simply thought that you might just be depressed it happens ya know any life changes, how much did you lose after cycle, blah blah blah you could be depressed
 
I lost about 10 lbs , I did not over eat while on and I contuine to work out hard.

I had a lot of full thick hairs, now they are MUCH thinner and MUCH fewer in number. Their kind of "sick" looking

I did develop hypothyroidism, and my pituitary gland may have a irregularity on it
I have to get another MRI in 6 months.

This all may be a coincidence but I have a feeling there is a connection to Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use
 
ball22a said:
I lost about 10 lbs , I did not over eat while on and I contuine to work out hard.

I had a lot of full thick hairs, now they are MUCH thinner and MUCH fewer in number. Their kind of "sick" looking

I did develop hypothyroidism, and my pituitary gland may have a irregularity on it
I have to get another MRI in 6 months.

This all may be a coincidence but I have a feeling there is a connection to Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use
NO PAIN, NO GAIN

Naw just playin man. Sorry to hear about the situation but I do agree that that was a piss poor cycle for your first go round. If you did develop all this from usage I think your situation is uncommon. And I dont think that anyone on this board will lead anyone to believe that steroid usage is safe but only suggest "more safe" ways to use.
 
mvmaxx said:
I can't believe you ran 400mg Deca for 16 weeks for your first cycle. No wonder you haven't recovered.

You can't really blame this on steroids but rather have to blame yourself for poor planning. I'd be willing to bet you would've been fine on 500mg/test for 10 weeks.

Why would it matter if it was his first cycle or not? Wouldn't the potential to be shut down hard from deca be the same whether it was his first or his 100th cycle?

I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to learn
 
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