Tren Gyno Coming On Quick!
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SloppyJoseph
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Cobra, I don't have the study but I know that the first line of defense against prolactin/progesterone is to control the estrogen levels. Something about how excess estrogen allows more progesterone conversion.
This is taken from another board:
"The true problem is estrogen or the estrogen receptor (ER). Progesterone is synthesised in reponse to estrogen in breast tissue.
Prolactin is regulated and secreted by estrogen aromotasing and secreted at the ant. pituitary lobe (the same as thyroid hormones). Compounds than interect with the ER can cause prolactin (PRL) to rise.
Using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should, in theory, prevent PRL from rising, but this doesnt always happen. So its advised to keep a dopamine agonist (caber, prami) on hand incase of PRL increasing."
So from this I get that when taking any 19-nor you should be focused on controlling estrogen. And you should ALWAYS have a progesterone antagonist on hand (Caber or Prami). This is a perfect example of why you should have anything you think you might need on hand before you start a cycle.
Hope this helps.
Hey thanks for bringing that up, thats very good to know and makes alot of sence.
SloppyJoseph
Chock Full O Nuts
*Sense
Haha just messin man.
But yeah it's really good to know. Im not sure many people actually read up about it.
Cobra Strike
New member
thanks for the explanation...I can see how high estro levels can promote prolactin I just havent experienced anything very serious to actually dig into it...I start getting gyno I get on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a DA...controls it for me without having to up my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage...so ya learn something everyday 
very true cobra, why run up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when a dope agonist can be run. But it's still very interesting. In my case running a low dose of letro, there's no way im going to up the mg to help minor prolactin issues instead of running a low dose dope A. So it has it's pro's and cons. Should never be substituted for a dopamine Agonists though which is why it could potentilally make things worse and drop your estro real low.
Cobra Strike
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agreed...
I think that user and sloppy said to raise the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to try to help combat the estro levels just a lil enough to help until he got his DA...
I like having the two blockers run together..makes it very easy for me
MGunz
Active member
alright so Being that Im only running this cycle another few more weeks, im just going to finish it out with aromasin at 20mg ed.
Im pretty sure this is prolactin related, but the pecker is working great (it always does with test).
Prami is coming and Ill let you guys know how it goes. Im also going to be lowering my Tren dose to 210mg/w untill this clears up.
Im pretty sure this is prolactin related, but the pecker is working great (it always does with test).
Prami is coming and Ill let you guys know how it goes. Im also going to be lowering my Tren dose to 210mg/w untill this clears up.
Cobra Strike
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DAMMIT!!! Sucks that shit happened bro
SloppyJoseph
Chock Full O Nuts
agreed...
I think that user and sloppy said to raise the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to try to help combat the estro levels just a lil enough to help until he got his DA...
I like having the two blockers run together..makes it very easy for me
Yes, the BEST method is to run caber/prami with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Run it(Caber/Prami) 1 week before you start the 19-nor and then run it a little longer then it takes for the ester of that 19-nor to clear. That's just how I do it so I'm not sure if it's the best way but it makes sense to me.
Repo
P.S.L. Representative
That should be good - I'm running Prami from RUI going into week 5 with my tren and have no signs of gyno at all.
A little off subject - but I was just loading 2cc's of pharma grade tren and I pulled the back of the syringe all the way out and wasted 1.5 cc's of tren.
Fuck me - what the he'll - I've never done that before - it's a good thing I ordered extra!!!
MGunz
Active member
That should be good - I'm running Prami from RUI going into week 5 with my tren and have no signs of gyno at all.
A little off subject - but I was just loading 2cc's of pharma grade tren and I pulled the back of the syringe all the way out and wasted 1.5 cc's of tren.
Fuck me - what the he'll - I've never done that before - it's a good thing I ordered extra!!!
lol that sucks man! And what is this im hearing about pharma grade tren lately?? What are compounding pharmacies making this stuff or something, how is this happening, its not FDA approved.....yet.
Pinnacle@Rep
Muscles can't stop this..
When I was about 16 I played football for a very athletic and competitive highschool football team out of Texas. Our coach was juicing us and fucking us all up. He had us brainwashed but anyway whatever it was he was giving us caused me the same exact problem you describe. I had clear fluid coming out of my nips. Sometimes if not all the time it wasn't so much coming out of the nip itself but outta the little bumpy brail looking things around the nips. So yeah, definately some hormonal problems there!
Repo
P.S.L. Representative
I'm not sure about the pharma grade aspect of tren - if it's just the way it's being marketed or how that works.
From the customers end it seems like a very high quality product and I'm seeing very good gains from it - but that's all I really know about it.
I'll run it again for sure.
Cobra Strike
New member
mgunz....I waited a week before I titrated up from .25 to .3....I got a lil sense of nausea from the .25 but that may just be me...
also I believe that pharm grade is still ug but marketed as pharm to make it sound better
also I believe that pharm grade is still ug but marketed as pharm to make it sound better
SloppyJoseph
Chock Full O Nuts
That's fucked up I'd sue the shit out of the school. How does your coach inject you with something and you don't know what it is? Or was it oral stuff? He must have got a hell of a bulk discount.
That's fucked up I'd sue the shit out of the school. How does your coach inject you with something and you don't know what it is? Or was it oral stuff? He must have got a hell of a bulk discount.
More than likely Anadrol.
MGunz
Active member
Cobra, what time of the day do like like to dose it? Ever have it affect you sleep?
Cobra Strike
New member
I do it right before bedtime but after you have done it for a week or so and you dont think your getting sides then you can do it whenever you want...I think the idea is to sleep through the nausea...I only got 5 hours of sleep due to school so I would wake up still feeling a lil nausea...but now I can take it whenever
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