Trenbolone Thoughts

[Chase]

Question for some of the folks here-
There are a lot of people out there who are 'against' running Tren. One of my mentors refuses to run it and has advised me against it either. There are some other big names who will steer you away from trenbolone as well and an equal amount who will tell you that Tren and Test is one of the best cycles.

Now, is the general consensus that running Tren ( Enthanate specifically ) is something one should avoid? This is coming from someone who has run a few cycles but is new to posting on these boards.
Please don't bash this post and ask about diet/age/ etc because although I am considering trying Tren out at some point it's NOT now.

1- Would Tren E provide an added benefit to a a Test E cycle in the 400-600mg range?
2- Is Tren Ace/Test Prop/ the 'Recommended' way to use tren?
3- Are the Tren sides not worth the benefit?

I appreciate it folks, I am trying to establish myself on this board as of a few days ago and I have several questions I might as well ask. My mentor is an old school lifter who stays on cycle almost all year around and I know I genetically not able to do what he does

Thanks folks

 

[Trainwrek]

IMO, Tren is something you should use if you're competing.. if you've got a reason to use it. It works for sure. No doubt. But do you wanna run it with all of its sides just to drop a 5lbs of fat and add 10lbs of muscle? It has horrible sides if you get them, some don't, some do. Just my 2 cents.. diet/trainig/rest and Test only will do anything you want to do. Unless you're a bodybuilder getting on stage, I don't see the point in anything else. But there will be people who love it and tell you to go for it. Personally if I were gonna do it, I'd go Prop and Ace so if you got bad sides you could stop and it would be out of your system faster.

 

[weights=life]

theres a great tool on this website.. the search function search this thread "tren" and youll get all the answers your looking for.

 

[Phatbastard]

Is that Vanilla Ice in your avi?

If your going to try it use Tren A to start as stated above if you do experience sides you can get it out of your system quick. If you handle it well then move on to Tren E. Results will be the same just less pinning.

Tren A can be run with any ester Test it does not have to be prop.

If you know how to recognize and deal with the sides on other compounds. I don't see an issue with using Tren in either form. But if you don't I would recomend satying away from it.

 

[Repo]

I personally love running tren and have only ran enanthate with very good results and minimal sides.

A lot of people have opinions on tren and say you shouldn't run it until you have so many cycles under your belt...

However I really think it all depends on how well you are conditioned and have been lifting.

After learning tren is best ran at higher levels than test - I've increased my tren very high and lowered my test with very good results and low sides.

The reson for running tren like this is because they are both highly androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptors.

For a first time running tren I would advise to start with a low dose of tren - such as 300-400.

 

[PITBULLLOCK]

You can get all the benfits of tren simply by running other compounds and dialing in your diet.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

trenbolone is the mai choice for advanced bodybuilder, absolutly not for beginners, plus, it's almost sure than beginers will gain nothing but side-effects with tren.

in fact more you have lbs of muscle and low fat, more tren is efficient.

for the rest, is has nnothing than a good diet and running Primo and a correct amount of anavar with testo can't bring.

 

[darkside06]

Is that Vanilla Ice in your avi?

If your going to try it use Tren A to start as stated above if you do experience sides you can get it out of your system quick. If you handle it well then move on to Tren E. Results will be the same just less pinning.

Tren A can be run with any ester Test it does not have to be prop.

If you know how to recognize and deal with the sides on other compounds. I don't see an issue with using Tren in either form. But if you don't I would recomend satying away from it.

^Agreed.

I did a lot of research before my first cycle of Tren and decided to go with Ace for this reason.

Personaly I like to run Tren Ace with Prop, but Tren Ace can be run with any test really.

 

[megatron_ed]

I personally love running tren and have only ran enanthate with very good results and minimal sides.

A lot of people have opinions on tren and say you shouldn't run it until you have so many cycles under your belt...

However I really think it all depends on how well you are conditioned and have been lifting.

After learning tren is best ran at higher levels than test - I've increased my tren very high and lowered my test with very good results and low sides.

The reson for running tren like this is because they are both highly androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptors.

For a first time running tren I would advise to start with a low dose of tren - such as 300-400.

Repo, so given what you said, a first Tren cycle should be 400 of Tren and 300 of test?

 

[crazyfmike]

You can get all the benfits of tren simply by running other compounds and dialing in your diet.

Here it is right here:

You can get all the benfits of tren simply by running other compounds and dialing in your diet.

Well stated PB

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Here it is right here:

You can get all the benfits of tren simply by running other compounds and dialing in your diet.

Well stated PB

not all of them, would it be close? yes i agree. but to say other things will give you what tren does is inaccurate, nothing increases feed efficiency like tren, meaning its the only compound you can diet on and still add lbm

 

[darkside06]

not all of them, would it be close? yes i agree. but to say other things will give you what tren does is inaccurate, nothing increases feed efficiency like tren, meaning its the only compound you can diet on and still add lbm

OAK, you seem to have a lot of experience with Tren. Do you prefer one over the other? E or Ace?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

oddly enough ive ran a shitload of tren but never tren E. a lot of my boyz have and they say its the same thing, just not as strong.

keep in mind the potency is the same but your peaks (in blood levels) will be much sharper. so ace may "feel stronger" kind of like prop feels stronger that test e. although its doing the exact same things.

i love tren, and will always run it, but right now im on EQ and test, small dose of deca and its nice being on cycle and not having that anxiety tren gives, what i mean is this cycle is more relaxing.

tren gets me going, i pace, wash dishes whatever i can do to stay busy on it, cause it just wont let you stay still

 

[darkside06]

oddly enough ive ran a shitload of tren but never tren E. a lot of my boyz have and they say its the same thing, just not as strong.

keep in mind the potency is the same but your peaks (in blood levels) will be much sharper. so ace may "feel stronger" kind of like prop feels stronger that test e. although its doing the exact same things.

i love tren, and will always run it, but right now im on EQ and test, small dose of deca and its nice being on cycle and not having that anxiety tren gives, what i mean is this cycle is more relaxing.

tren gets me going, i pace, wash dishes whatever i can do to stay busy on it, cause it just wont let you stay still

LOL...that's teu, that's why it makes me kill it in the gym though! I've only ever run Ace and loved it.

 

[Zeek]

Here is the truth about tren

It is the most powerful injectable out there IMO. Like DET pointed out it is the only steroid I know of that you can build LBM in a caloric deficit. Keep in mind this steroid was developed to keep cattle gaining through transport and on their way to slaughter when they barely eat.

The down side is that the stuff is some toxic brew!! the body doesn't like it and if you abuse it chances are that you will run into some health problems from it down the road.

If you plan to use tren make sure to respect it or it will kick your ass.

 

[unclej]

Just do a Test, Eq and Masteron cycle. Stay on spot with your diet and you will get the same results as tren but with less side effects. JMO

 

[PITBULLLOCK]

not all of them, would it be close? yes i agree. but to say other things will give you what tren does is inaccurate, nothing increases feed efficiency like tren, meaning its the only compound you can diet on and still add lbm

I respectfully disagree. I'm not against tren at all, he'll I'm currently running tren and I have ran it a few times in the past. I have came to realize with a proper diet and other compounds for example deca, mast, eq, Winstrol (winny), you can get the same gains as you would with tren.

 

[crazyfmike]

I respectfully disagree. I'm not against tren at all, he'll I'm currently running tren and I have ran it a few times in the past. I have came to realize with a proper diet and other compounds for example deca, mast, eq, Winstrol (winny), you can get the same gains as you would with tren.

So true PB. Tren is strong and easy gains for lazy guys are possible. Get ON SPOT with your diet and lifestyle and watch things happen. Tren is also a huge mind fuck.

 

[crazyfmike]

Tren can and will ruin relationships, careers and police records. Maybe you're special and exempt from the "Tren Talk" and other "Tren Train" behaviors . . . I know I am not. I become a real dick!

Compounds, especially this one are too heavily relied on for "gains".

 

[PITBULLLOCK]

Tren can and will ruin relationships, careers and police records. Maybe you're special and exempt from the "Tren Talk" and other "Tren Train" behaviors . . . I know I am not. I become a real dick!

Compounds, especially this one are too heavily relied on for "gains".

He'll yeah bro as you know I was starting to have some problems with my girl becaus of the mind fuck tren gives you. But thanks to your advise all is well with the lady