ugl vs pharm grade!!

bishopone1

bishopone1

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I just have a quick question i have a good source with good gear for pretty cheap cause i know the guy that makes it. My question is compared to my ugl stuff and i know the quailty varys from lab to lab but say mine was very good. Is like human grade gear or like shit u order off line really that much better im just curious cause i made an order with z and im just wondering if i will be able to tell that much of a diff in quality? i am still fairly new to the site so if this is an inapropriate post just tell me and ill delete it just looking for advice on the diff in gear. all thoughts are helpful, Thanks
 
human grade is not the same as fda approved. some ugl use the term human grade products. just wanted to get that straight. so my answer is fda approved testosterone is better than all others. imo. there are some good ugl,s out there but imo none beat fda usa pharmacy test.
 
I'm spoiled living in Thailand, but to me using true human grade feels a lot safer. I don't find shit floating around in my amps, and dosages are right on. Human grade is made to the standards that are required of any pharmaceutical lab in the country where they are produced- so if your testoviron depot comes from Germany, for example, it is going to be produced to the highest standards of purity, accuracy, and using sterile methods in the product and environment.
 
Thanks guys very helpful!!! Great info so say u had to ratio out 250mgs of ugl test to 250 pharm would there be a big diff? And are you saying that when u order off line as i said in my previous post where i ordered is that considered pharm grade or is that still considered ugl? just wanting to know cause im in a current cycle and want to know if my doses could be lowered and be getting same results as i am now?
 
With UGL there is no way to know. One vial could be under or overdosed. One lot could be under or over. With human grade, every vial/amp will be perfect.
 
If you can get HG from a USA or EU pharmacy then Yes, you most likely have the best quality that money can buy. best option

Then comes genuine HG from side players like Pakistan,Iran etc 2nd best option

If a UGL has a strong connection that gets them almost pure raw hormones and they know how to brew and most important maintain sterility, this can be a close 3rd.

Here come the tricks we all must watch for

This is an educated guess and nothing more but I would figure that 60% or more HG sold over the net is fake or counterfeit. Most is counterfeit because these sources want your repeat business, there is real product in the amp it is just UGL put into amps.

After many years I still get sent counterfeits from time to time! Crap counterfeits are easy to spot very good ones can be impossible to spot.

There are a lot of garbage UGL's so watch it! but be aware they can come in all forms, shapes and sizes :)
 
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Zeek said:
If you can get HG from a USA or EU pharmacy then Yes, you most likely have the best quality that money can buy. best option

Then comes genuine HG from side players like Pakistan,Iran etc 2nd best option

If a UGL has a strong connection that gets them almost pure raw hormones and they know how to brew and most important maintain sterility, this can be a close 3rd.

Here come the tricks we all must watch for

This is an educated guess and nothing more but I would figure that 60% or more HG sold over the net is fake or counterfeit. Most is counterfeit because these sources want your repeat business, there is real product in the amp it is just UGL put into amps.

After many years I still get sent counterfeits from time to time! Crap counterfeits are easy to spot very good ones can be impossible to spot.

There are a lot of garbage UGL's so watch it! but be aware they can come in all forms, shapes and sizes :)
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Yeah - you really have to take the time to review the feedback on where your gear comes from.

You guys know I'm a big fan of Z - and have had very good experiences with his gear...

But I tell ya what - I researched a lot of other places before choosing him ... "a LOT!"

I can say from my experience - I seem to have just as good results with UGL and HG with the Z Line and Euro-Pharmacies.

Whoever you use - as long as it's a reputable source - I think you'll do just fine with either or.
 
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Yeah - you really have to take the time to review the feedback on where your gear comes from.

You guys know I'm a big fan of Z - and have had very good experiences with his gear...

But I tell ya what - I researched a lot of other places before choosing him ... "a LOT!"

I can say from my experience - I seem to have just as good results with UGL and HG with the Z Line and Euro-Pharmacies.

Whoever you use - as long as it's a reputable source - I think you'll do just fine with either or.
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Even reputable sources get taken much more often than we like to think. They have orders to fill and sometimes obtain product from where ever they can get it in bulk. A good fake will fool a good source, just how it is :(

I feel the safest bet to obtain real HG online is to buy the products from the country where they are manufactured and the source is based. If I want Jelfa products there are only two sources to consider for me. If I want Karachi amps I should be dealing with someone based in Pakistan etc

Many of these sources buy amps by the 10's of thousands. It's not just amps, counterfeit orals are a major problem right now too.
 
Repo said:
Yeah - you really have to take the time to review the feedback on where your gear comes from.

You guys know I'm a big fan of Z - and have had very good experiences with his gear...

But I tell ya what - I researched a lot of other places before choosing him ... "a LOT!"

I can say from my experience - I seem to have just as good results with UGL and HG with the Z Line and Euro-Pharmacies.

Whoever you use - as long as it's a reputable source - I think you'll do just fine with either or.
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is the z line HG? i dont know if your familiar with oxide labs but if so would you recommend oxide or the z line??
 
sorry thats not the whole truth

My friend is a pharmacist I have gotten Pfizer test c 200mg straight off the shelf and had it tested ...60% pure ..not good yes it was dosed correctly at 200mg but the purity was very bad ...also had some top UGL tested and had test c 250mgs tested and it came back 90% pure and correctly dosed ..and it was half the price for the UGL ...and as far as the FDA goes its all about the money my buddie the pharmacist says they have there hand out and don't test half of the gear us pharm companys even put on the shelfs ...if you find a really reliable UGL source its far better ..had Watson tested to came back the same 69% ...us pharm companys are not as good as you think ...if you want to see a lot of tests just ask or email ,me I will show you 20 UGL tests showing 93% pure from ten different companys ...and there has never been a us company that's tested over 70% ...yet they cost 80 to 90 $ a bottle garbage ...plus there faked a lot ..you never know what your getting unless you get it straight from the pharm and they still aren't that good
 
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