Update after meeting endo

Good point.

Off adex and after restart my TT was 180 ng/dl and Estradiol was 38 pg/ml. Took 0.25 mg adex and did labs 24 hours later and Estradiol was 16 pg/ml with TT climbing to 311 ng/dl.
Both these results were 48 hours apart. Shows adex brings down estradiol and there is a resulting doubling in TT.

Well Thts wat I was thinking ! If u read my post I asked u guys tht wat if I start taking ADEX to bring down my e2 in lower side of the range , and then probably wait for sometime to see if tht helps with my test levels ! But then Mprtz suggested it wouldn't b worth it ! So thought clomid would b a better option in that case ! But the jump u got here by using adex by lowering ur e2 is almost 120 points , which which is really a good jump !

But again what after this ? Like u reached 320 after bringing ur e2 down to already 16 , I m sure u wouldn't aim to crash ur e2 more to raise ur test further ?

Or would u start clomid after these levels and monitor ur e2? In my case were my e2 is 43 ad test is 400 say if I start ADEX @0.25/ day and my e2 comes down Abt 20 points then my test should b aroun say 500! Would my e2 come back to same level if I stop my adex as it was before starting it ?

Or do u think I should simply start clomid and if my e2 gets high then I should take adex ?




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Vitamin D affects testosterone levels. Try to get your Vit D higher. If it help, I take 10,000 iu daily and that puts me at about 90 (30-100 range). Just don't go over the normal range.

After taking 5500 IU everyday it went from 4.5 to 48 in 2 months in April and I have still continued it at the same dose so I m guessing it should be somewhere around 80 now ! Don't U think Megatron !
 
Captain America I hav been following ur post and see tht u r on ur way to start ur trt?
I almost have the same situation as urs ! Even with the test results it's almost similar ! Did u try clomid ?
 
Good point.

Off adex and after restart my TT was 180 ng/dl and Estradiol was 38 pg/ml. Took 0.25 mg adex and did labs 24 hours later and Estradiol was 16 pg/ml with TT climbing to 311 ng/dl.
Both these results were 48 hours apart. Shows adex brings down estradiol and there is a resulting doubling in TT.

I don't know if I agree it shows that - being that it's a single data point.
Do you have a proposed mechanism for how AI raises TT by much more than the aromatization it blocks? Increased LH?
 
Regularly it says the limit is <39 and mine is 43

I understand tha. But it is an inaccurate lab test at the lower levels found in men. It works fin for the higher levels found in women. Thus, you want to use the Sensitive Assay.

What we typically see is that the regular assay is 10-20 points overstated when it comes in with a lowish result like yours. So that 43 you see is probably 23-33 which is about right where you want your E2 to be. Now, if it came in with a high result like 236 you would not have to adjust it. The regular assay does just fine with high results seen in women.
 
After taking 5500 IU everyday it went from 4.5 to 48 in 2 months in April and I have still continued it at the same dose so I m guessing it should be somewhere around 80 now ! Don't U think Megatron !

I don't think it will keep climbing if you keep taking the same dose. It sounds like you need 10,000 iu daily.
 
Megatron, can you explain the benefit of Vitamin D for guys like us on TRT?

It keeps away rickets! :-)

For guys not on TRT, Vitamin D is a precursor for Testostosterone among other things.

For guys on TRT who get all their testosterone exogenously, vitamin D is still necessary for good health. I don't have a list in front of me, but it has been associated with good health in many ways.
 
I took 10 000 I.u. daily a couple months at a time with a month of pausing in between.
Mines went OVER range by 35 nmol/l....
I have been off it a while now. The Stuff works.
 
What are some of the common sides with clomid?

Its exhibits Estradiol agonist/antagonist effects on different receptors in the body.
Best way is to try it in low doses and see how it works for you instead of listening to the other people's experiences which may turn u off from using it.
 
Its exhibits Estradiol agonist/antagonist effects on different receptors in the body.
Best way is to try it in low doses and see how it works for you instead of listening to the other people's experiences which may turn u off from using it.

Agreed. Although I dont think 50mg ed is too much unless your prone to sides... But I'm assuming addy has used it before and knows how he reacts. If not he should definetely start low. Or get some Torem.
 
Agreed. Although I dont think 50mg ed is too much unless your prone to sides... But I'm assuming addy has used it before and knows how he reacts. If not he should definetely start low. Or get some Torem.

Alot of guys can't handle 50 mg ED.
Those that can't seem to do reasonably well on 12.5 mg ED.
But I wouldn't expect a big improvement at that dose.
But its better than nothing.
 
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