Update after meeting endo

[RR88]

If your treating low test and it's not a pct doing 50mg eod is more then enough. Give it a few months and check your bloods each month. Stop overthinking. Get to it. Good luck.

 

[Jimstigator]

Clomid at all doses made me an emotional wreck. Nolvadex at 40mg daily, slowly tapered down to 5mg, gave me the same results with only one side... loss of libido. I was on Nolvadex for over 3 years.

I was never on Clomid long enough to experience the vision side effects, but that freaks the hell out of me.

I would personally start low on either med. 12.5mg-25mg Clomid or 20mg-40mg Nolva. Then assess after a month or two.

-Jim

 

[Alpin]

Clomid at all doses made me an emotional wreck. Nolvadex at 40mg daily, slowly tapered down to 5mg, gave me the same results with only one side... loss of libido. I was on Nolvadex for over 3 years.

I was never on Clomid long enough to experience the vision side effects, but that freaks the hell out of me.

I would personally start low on either med. 12.5mg-25mg Clomid or 20mg-40mg Nolva. Then assess after a month or two.

-Jim

Nolva for 3 years????
Yikes!

 

[Megatron28]

Clomid at all doses made me an emotional wreck. Nolvadex at 40mg daily, slowly tapered down to 5mg, gave me the same results with only one side... loss of libido. I was on Nolvadex for over 3 years.

I was never on Clomid long enough to experience the vision side effects, but that freaks the hell out of me.

I would personally start low on either med. 12.5mg-25mg Clomid or 20mg-40mg Nolva. Then assess after a month or two.

-Jim

Any SERM can have vision side effects.

 

[Jimstigator]

Nolva for 3 years????
Yikes!

Dare I say don't believe everything you read on the internet? Long term, low dose Nolva isn't necessarily a bad thing.

-Jim

 

[Jimstigator]

Any SERM can have vision side effects.

My understanding is the chance is lower with Tamoxifene and Raloxifene. But - yes, you are correct - all present the risk.

-Jim

 

[Alpin]

Dare I say don't believe everything you read on the internet? Long term, low dose Nolva isn't necessarily a bad thing.

-Jim

Messes with IGF1 though....
Google it on Wikipedia. Its been linked to bladder cancer.
I'm no expert but sounds sketchy on safety.

 

[Jimstigator]

Messes with IGF1 though....
Google it on Wikipedia. Its been linked to bladder cancer.
I'm no expert but sounds sketchy on safety.

Less safe than 10,000iu of HCG daily for months on end?!

My IGF-1 as of a earlier this month was spot on.

Besides, come on man, you can't be telling me not to believe everything I read on the interwebz - then point me to Wikipedia as a place of reference for Nolvadex. Hold on one second, let me go edit the Wikipedia page really quickly remove that stuff.

-Jim

 

[Alpin]

Less safe than 10,000iu of HCG daily for months on end?!

My IGF-1 as of a earlier this month was spot on.

Besides, come on man, you can't be telling me not to believe everything I read on the interwebz - then point me to Wikipedia as a place of reference for Nolvadex. Hold on one second, let me go edit the Wikipedia page really quickly remove that stuff.

-Jim

Who put you on 10 000 I.u. daily of HCG ?

 

[Jimstigator]

Who put you on 10 000 I.u. daily of HCG ?

Haha I can't even handle 250iu of HCG. I misread your post earlier in the thread. I now realize you meant something other than HCG when you said you took 10,000iu daily for months.

Thank God, I was worried for your balls.

-Jim

 

[Alpin]

Haha I can't even handle 250iu of HCG. I misread your post earlier in the thread. I now realize you meant something other than HCG when you said you took 10,000iu daily for months.

Thank God, I was worried for your balls.

-Jim

I don't remember ever dosing any pharmaceutical at 10 000 I.u. daily doses for months.
You probably meant vit. D.

 

[addy]

This question has already been answered for you in this thread.

sorry Megatron but i didnt get a clear understanding of the dosage and frequency ! cos some ppl r saying to take 50 mg EOD while some r saying to take the same amount ED , so just not getting a clear picture here!

 

[addy]

Agreed. Although I dont think 50mg ed is too much unless your prone to sides... But I'm assuming addy has used it before and knows how he reacts. If not he should definetely start low. Or get some Torem.

No bro i haven't used it ever !! U must've forgotten tht in every thread of mine i have been telling all of u guys tht i have never done a pct !

thts y i m confused and dont knw much about it and thts y i have been bugging u guys with these ques.

 

[addy]

If your treating low test and it's not a pct doing 50mg eod is more then enough. Give it a few months and check your bloods each month. Stop overthinking. Get to it. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply brother! yes i m treating low test and nope its not a pct and unfortunately but honestly i have never done a pct which is the cause of my existing probs. in the first place !

so now in my case would 50mg EOD be enough or should i start low as i've never used it like 25 mg EOD?

 

[addy]

Clomid at all doses made me an emotional wreck. Nolvadex at 40mg daily, slowly tapered down to 5mg, gave me the same results with only one side... loss of libido. I was on Nolvadex for over 3 years.

I was never on Clomid long enough to experience the vision side effects, but that freaks the hell out of me.

I would personally start low on either med. 12.5mg-25mg Clomid or 20mg-40mg Nolva. Then assess after a month or two.

-Jim

bro i already have a low libido so in tht case it doesnt sound so good for me !

 

[addy]

thanks PrinceDianabol , RR88 and Megatron and all of u for bearing with my silly questions and still helping me out !

 

[PrinceDianabol]

thanks PrinceDianabol , RR88 and Megatron and all of u for bearing with my silly questions and still helping me out !

All sweet bro. Clomid makes me horny as fuck, so it might actually help your libido. Plus the extra test. Depends how you react. Yeah sorry I forget... Inread too many threads lol.

Start a low dose and if you react fine just work you way up slowly to 50mg ed.. Start off even at 25mg eod, then go to ed, etc... Over a few days. If your not gettin any bad sides I'd sit on 50mg ed for a couple months at least..

 

[Alpin]

All sweet bro. Clomid makes me horny as fuck, so it might actually help your libido. Plus the extra test. Depends how you react. Yeah sorry I forget... Inread too many threads lol.

Start a low dose and if you react fine just work you way up slowly to 50mg ed.. Start off even at 25mg eod, then go to ed, etc... Over a few days. If your not gettin any bad sides I'd sit on 50mg ed for a couple months at least..

How long have you been on it?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

How long have you been on it?

About a month. Just got my bloods back yesterday.
Pre clomid bloods were:
Total T- 522ng/dl
Lh-6
Fsh-3

Bloods from yesterday (on clomid)
Total t - 864ng/dl
Lh- 20
Fsh - 9

I'm also on 50mg S4 ed.. Which is suppressive. So the clomid might actually put me a little higher without the S4 on board.

 

[Alpin]

About a month. Just got my bloods back yesterday.
Pre clomid bloods were:
Total T- 522ng/dl
Lh-6
Fsh-3

Bloods from yesterday (on clomid)
Total t - 864ng/dl
Lh- 20
Fsh - 9

I'm also on 50mg S4 ed.. Which is suppressive. So the clomid might actually put me a little higher without the S4 on board.

Nice. Check SHBG and Albumin now and you can calculate your bio avail T.
S4?
Whats that?
You are on 50 mg ED right?
Are you going to stay on it for a while?