Using Nolva to Completely Replace Clomid

[xzon]

how can i use nolva to eliminate clomid.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par25.htm

after reading that article plus browsing the boards it has become obvious that clomid is crap and if nolva can do it can some mod or vet explain to me how to use nolva to replace clomid? im interested in it for post cycle therapy (pct), and dosages and scheduling.
thanks guys

 

[xzon]

i have done some research. just gonna post it here to get some opinions on it thx.

if problems of Gynocomastia or other estrogen related symptoms tend to pop up during a cycle the use of 20-30 mg of Nolvadex ED

for pct:
start with 50 mg of Nolvadex first 10 days
cont. with 25 mg of Nolvadex for next 25 days

i also read that HCG is an absolute must for any cycle. yet i see some ppl advocating not to use it for simple cycle such as test only. comments?
thanks guys

 

[StoneColdNTO]

i have done some research. just gonna post it here to get some opinions on it thx.

if problems of Gynocomastia or other estrogen related symptoms tend to pop up during a cycle the use of 20-30 mg of Nolvadex ED

for pct:
start with 50 mg of Nolvadex first 10 days
cont. with 25 mg of Nolvadex for next 25 days

For gyno......take 40-60 mg/day until the symptoms subside, (usually a few days), then continue taking 20 mg/day for the duration of the cycle.

For post cycle therapy (pct), 20 mg Nolva is approx equal to 50 mg Clomid

so I would do it as follows, based on traditional Clomid therapy;

Day 1 - 120 mg Nolva
Day 2-11 - 40 mg/day
Day 12-21 - 20 mg/day

 

[Annonamous1]

I use the nolva on a scale of 20mg = 50 clomid. I run nolva through my whole cycle and then just bump up the doses for post cycle therapy (pct) as if i was running clomid.

 

[xzon]

SC THANKS ur the best u always hoox up the best advice

 

[xzon]

will it go ok if i do this:?

Week 1 to 12: 500 mg of Testosterone Enanthate / week
250 mg Mondays & 250 mg Thursdays

Week 1 to 12: Arimidex 0.5 mg ED

Week 13 to 14: 20mg of Nolvadex ED

Week 15 to 17: Nolvadex Therapy - 2 weeks after last injection

im worried about going from adex -> nolva ->nolva pct
will anything contradict?

 

[xzon]

-should i run arimidex week 1-18? or 1-14?
-should i replace the arimidex with nolvadex 20mg ed week 1-14?

 

[DUANABOL]

Nolvadex can be used instead of Clomid and vice-versa. They are interchangeable. Most don't realize this. You should experiment and find which one works the best for you and of course adjust dosages accordingly with the 20 mg Nolvadex = @ 50 mg Clomid comparison.

 

[xzon]

im having trouble locating arimidex and liquidresearch never sent me my clen so i dunno where i could possibly get some. THIS IS NOT ME ASKING FOR SOURCES PLS DONT PM ME SAYING U HAVE ADEX. im just wondering if there is a good liquid site? or shouldi replace adex with nolva?

 

[Mudge]

i also read that HCG is an absolute must for any cycle.

No way, I NEEDED it, and my balls are now back. I noticed a difference litterally within a day.

I am liking nolvadex more and more, I just dropped clomid from my post cycle therapy (pct) even at 50mg a day because my skin just fucking goes berzerk, I'm taking pantothenic acid to try and get rid of it (B5), this is my first time trying that.

I have read recently that 20mg nolvadex is actually as effective as 150mg clomid, instead of the usual 20/50 that you hear, that would be interesting to know, very interesting.

 

[Mudge]

im worried about going from adex -> nolva ->nolva pct
will anything contradict?

I had wondered in the past of clomid/nolva would fight each other, but nolva/arimidex will not - one is anti-E and one is anti-aromatase which is an enzyme in the fat stores which converts test to estrogen, not really related to what nolvadex does.

Since clomid is a weak estro, thats why I wondered if nolva would cause problems, people say no though.

 

[needsize]

After being on for 7 months, this was my post cycle therapy. Shot 1000iu of hcg for 5 days in the row. For 5 days ran 40mg nolva, 100mg clomid. Now I am just running one tab of each. After being on for 7 months, and only 10 days of my post cycle therapy (pct), and my sex drive is already back

 

[xzon]

7 months on??????????? no break? wow man needsize thats hardcore why so long?

 

[Rj*]

7 months on??????????? no break? wow man needsize thats hardcore why so long?

a show

 

[xzon]

i know he did the show but i had no idea he did 7 months of gear pre contest! thats hardcore for sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! haha well should i use hcg for my frist cycle its 12 weeks of test @ 500mg/wk
thanks again

 

[Texas Ranger]

I would use the HCG if you are going 12 weeks.

 

[Mudge]

7 months on??????????? no break? wow man needsize thats hardcore why so long?

28-30 weeks is really not uncommon, he also ran 500iu of HCG twice per week. For a 12 weeker it sure can't hurt, even if its not something you start right away.

FWIW I'm told dont mix the HCG with your gear OR oil.

 

[slicli]

Can hcg increase your gyno response? beyond the increase in test it produces?

 

[needsize]

7 months on??????????? no break? wow man needsize thats hardcore why so long?

Because I started off with 3 months of bulking, and if I took a break before cutting, I would lose some size like you always do when you come off. To go from that into a 4 month contest diet, would have brought me into the show very small.
It didnt feel hardcore to me, the hcg kept things running, and I was getting blood tests all the way through which all came back normally. i was going to stay on after the show as well, but the crazy water that I've gained(40+lbs) is hard enough on my body, so I thought I'd give it a break from gear

 

[Mudge]

Can hcg increase your gyno response? beyond the increase in test it produces?

Yes because it raises test and estrogen.