I am in here asking for myself. I'm not sure what you mean by smells like fish.
So what do you actually think of the cycle?
What do yall think of this 20 week strength cycle?
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I am in here asking for myself. I'm not sure what you mean by smells like fish.
So what do you actually think of the cycle?
Um you did see his response to me, right?
Ok, thank you for responding about the cycle. If 20 weeks sounds long to you, what alternative cycle length would you suggest?
And ok, the info wasn't totally useless, but it wasn't what I asked and I'm aware that there are sides that come with use.
Also, I do have a high level comp I'm taking it for. PL, not BB.
No, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, I didn't intend on Var for that long, just the initial 8 weeks to start, which would end soon, so I'm just trying to see if I need to start the test before that ends.
I'm at my target bw for my comp (PL) so weight gain or loss isn't a goal, I'd just be trying for some recomp, diet wise of course, since more muscle is always better but aesthetics isn't really a concern atm.
Ty for the input! The doses are listed above in my response to Mycelium. I've also decided to only run the SD for 5-6 weeks instead of 8.
Why do you say DHT based stuff is bad for women? Cause of hair loss or something else?
how don't you understand that by taking steroids you are literally slowly transition yourself into a male. how do you think female to male transgenders do it? pretty much the exact way you are.
no it's not hypocritical, these are male sex hormones we're talking about. we're simply making our masculinity more pronounced, you on the other hand are moving to the whole other side of the gender spectrum. we are staying on our side.
and FYI sweetie this IS the ''pretty princess beauty tip page'' because i want to feel like a pretty princess every fucking day because thats what i am. no girls allowed.
Mycelium
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Masculine traits in females is a side effect not a sex change. I grew tits over ten years, I didnt become a woman.
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With this I would imagine anything that causes weight gain wouldn't be good. No real reference for females. How much aromatase does a female bodyeven make? haha Water gain from high estrogen or even substantial glucose and water in response to test.
Peaking effects of the drugs with the date seems better than a cycle. Showing up with any potential strength benefits in full effect but not longer than needed to minimalist unwanted sides.
DHT derivitiave seem to effect people differently. The worse you have it the worse it can be but some guys shed like ddigs other not so much. Unless I'm mixed up on that.
I've only seen a couple cycles posted and the totals were less than a single compound in some men stacks.
To requote doses on page 2
With this I would imagine anything that causes weight gain wouldn't be good. No real reference for females. How much aromatase does a female bodyeven make? haha Water gain from high estrogen or even substantial glucose and water in response to test.
Peaking effects of the drugs with the date seems better than a cycle. Showing up with any potential strength benefits in full effect but not longer than needed to minimalist unwanted sides.
DHT derivitiave seem to effect people differently. The worse you have it the worse it can be but some guys shed like ddigs other not so much. Unless I'm mixed up on that.
I've only seen a couple cycles posted and the totals were less than a single compound in some men stacks.
you're absolutely right, you're still 100% male. gynecomastia is a direct effect of elevated levels of a female hormone, so i wouldn't necessarily consider it a side effect. oily skin is a side effect, acne is a side effect, but a woman who pins testosterone and primobolan and ends up growing a big clit is a result, it's a direct effect. the same way being drunk is a result of drinking a lot.
Hahahahaha.....I'm sorry I somehow missed this post until now 
First off..."unforgiven" made a comment on someone's post?!?! Huh?? If girls cant use roids then teenagers cant either unforgiven so tap the brakes.
OP......yes, male sex hormones run a high risk of making you manly. My sister is a pro bodybuilder and her experience has not left her without some changes. I know many female pros and unfortunately it leaves its mark on most of them. Exactly how many cycles before the changes are permanent????......well that is different for all you girls but it ain't a lot of cycles.
What to expect? Well I know this is all obvious but I'll tell ya what I've witnessed. Definitely a deeper and completely different sounding voice, hair in places ya didn't have much hair before, leathery skin, bone structure changes (yes, it will eventually change the way your face looks..COMPLETELY). There are other changes but we will leave that territory alone for now and assume that everyone is clear that Male hormones make us all more manly.
Ok....so now that's outta the way. Let's assume we are doing cycles and have accepted the risks. Now you have to minimize them. Minimizing risk for a woman using these hormones is pretty simple........#1 limit the amount and duration of use. Kind of obvious and unfortunately ya dont get as much of the intended side effect.....which is strength and size.
#2 Know what you're taking and if you arent sure then stick with the basics. What I mean here is that if your source is one of many that gets low dose dianabol and sells it as anavar (EXTREMELY common), then you are better off sticking with the test ya have. Keep the doses low and esters short so that you can bail if ya need to. #3 If you're gonna do this then you need to go ahead and blast some hgh with everything ya run and just stay on the stuff cuz its effects come slowly but reliably. Plus, what woman doesnt like nice hair and skin Side effects of hgh. This is expensive but money isnt the real gamble here is it?
So if I were a chick I'd run low dose short ester test and I'd run hgh year round. And pray for the best.
Good luck
First off..."unforgiven" made a comment on someone's post?!?! Huh?? If girls cant use roids then teenagers cant either unforgiven so tap the brakes.
OP......yes, male sex hormones run a high risk of making you manly. My sister is a pro bodybuilder and her experience has not left her without some changes. I know many female pros and unfortunately it leaves its mark on most of them. Exactly how many cycles before the changes are permanent????......well that is different for all you girls but it ain't a lot of cycles.
What to expect? Well I know this is all obvious but I'll tell ya what I've witnessed. Definitely a deeper and completely different sounding voice, hair in places ya didn't have much hair before, leathery skin, bone structure changes (yes, it will eventually change the way your face looks..COMPLETELY). There are other changes but we will leave that territory alone for now and assume that everyone is clear that Male hormones make us all more manly.
Ok....so now that's outta the way. Let's assume we are doing cycles and have accepted the risks. Now you have to minimize them. Minimizing risk for a woman using these hormones is pretty simple........#1 limit the amount and duration of use. Kind of obvious and unfortunately ya dont get as much of the intended side effect.....which is strength and size.
#2 Know what you're taking and if you arent sure then stick with the basics. What I mean here is that if your source is one of many that gets low dose dianabol and sells it as anavar (EXTREMELY common), then you are better off sticking with the test ya have. Keep the doses low and esters short so that you can bail if ya need to. #3 If you're gonna do this then you need to go ahead and blast some hgh with everything ya run and just stay on the stuff cuz its effects come slowly but reliably. Plus, what woman doesnt like nice hair and skin
Side effects of hgh. This is expensive but money isnt the real gamble here is it?So if I were a chick I'd run low dose short ester test and I'd run hgh year round. And pray for the best.
Good luck
unforgivin
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my advice for you is to drop this cycle
steroids are not for females. very bad idea
don't do this cycle or you're gonna want to commit suicide when you are done
steroids are not for females. very bad idea
don't do this cycle or you're gonna want to commit suicide when you are done
lol ah yes, doctor unforgivin has spoken
jp4355
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I don't see a Problem with a Drop in strength when you stop the Var.
Cause you will have 2 Weeks with the Test P. (if I'm reading this correctly).
And since the Half-Life of Test P is 2 days, you'll be OK ~ it takes any Compound between 4 to 5 Half-Lives to reach Peak Blood Plasma Levels.
EQ is a Good Choice as a Muscle Builder for a Woman, and Not Too Bad on Sides either.
Primo is an Excellent Choice for Women.
And the Superdrol will Blow the Anavar out of the Water ~ so you should see Excellent results from 10 Mg a Day.
Christ ~ Checque Drops and TNE the day of the Meet ~ be Careful you Don't Hurt yourself, as you are going to get Good Strength from either one, so doing Both should make you feel like you can Tear-Up Concrete in your Bare-Hands.
16 Weeks is Not too long, as long as you are doing some Liver Support.
I would recommend both Tudca and NAC so your Liver Enzymes don't go through the Roof over the 16 Weeks................... JP
P.S.
Most of your Compounds are Not too bad for a Female, with the exception of the Test P.
It's the most Masculinizing of the compounds that you are using, but it sounds like you are more than aware of this point.
So GOOD LUCK at the MEET, and please let us know how it turns out for you.
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Hahaha. Yeah.....he is finally funny, though I don't think that is his intention. Previously his shit has just been mind numbingly idiotic.
i'm starting to like him
I'm 162 now, and my weight class is <165. I want to come in at 159 this time, and attempt a 100lbs over bw bench press. I'm just thinking I'll maintain 162 for the prep and then on meet wk I can easily drop 3lbs if the 259 bench is still the goal. If training has gone really well, I might just stay 162 and shoot for a 264 bench press.
Var usually bloats me but I've eaten in a slight defecit for the past couple months to counteract that and I'm still feeling good strength wise. Usually at this point in prep I'm around 168. But being almost done with the var and about to start injectables, I feel like I'm right where I want to be weight wise.
I can usually manipulate my weight pretty well with diet, but last season I ended up getting some sinus thing and losing 10lbs 4 weeks out lol fml. So basically I used to be in the high 160s- low 170s during prep and I'd drop a little weight at the end to make 165. Now, since I started lighter, I'm just trying to stay where I'm at so I don't have to worry about cutting much, if at all on meet week. PLs can do different weight classes, but I want to stay 165 class to bump up my rankings and whatnot.
ok ok ok please just don't beat me up
