What is the lowest does of test I can get away with on deca cycle?

[FoxOscar]

I'm 26 and have 3 cycles under my belt. I've never been worried about hair loss until recently when somebody made a comment on my receding hairline - now I'm paranoid as hell!

Obviously, deca is very gentle on the hairline but I know test can cause problems. What is the lowest amount of test I can run with deca without it being completely ineffective? Does 800mg deca (too much?), 400 test sound ok?

I'm 6' 5", weigh around 270lbs and BF is about 18% (next cycle is a cutting one).

 

[Bullseye Forever]

hey brother,you are real close to m y size and im currently running test/deca,my first time with deca,and my doses are Test cyp-700mg/week and Deca 500mg/week.....my BF is about like yours as well,im taking aromasin at 25 mg/ed....deca bloats like a bitch,i would keep my test at least 200mg higher than deca,just my opinion,i would stay with 400-500mg/deca for my first go with it,Deca is a little more powerful than alot of people think,it will fuck with your sexual agenda big time,the higher the dose,the worse it is,im 6'5 278 and this 500mg dose has kicked my ass,a lot stronger than i thought,but managable,its fun and feels good though

 

[OmegaReign]

Good advice. However, Ive heard of plenty of people able to run deca higher than test and had 0 libido issues. Just depends on you.

 

[Phatbastard]

Good advice. However, Ive heard of plenty of people able to run deca higher than test and had 0 libido issues. Just depends on you.

Agree ^^^^

 

[OX]

I dont see why you think you need 800mg of deca. You can start your test lower then deca and if you start to have libido issues you can raise your test levels.

Also you cant run finastride with deca so if you truly are losing your hair then its just a matter of time. AAs doesnt cause hairloss but it def will speed up the process.

 

[darkside06]

I dont see why you think you need 800mg of deca. You can start your test lower then deca and if you start to have libido issues you can raise your test levels.

Also you cant run finastride with deca so if you truly are losing your hair then its just a matter of time. AAs doesnt cause hairloss but it def will speed up the process.

^This!

 

[China_Wall]

deca/test chatter has been around a while now as far as what dosages are best... like Omegareign said, it really depends on the person... I remember back in the 90's (sh*t that's a long time ago haha) when loads of guys would run deca/dbol cycles with no test whatsoever and didn't have any libido issues... the only thing around at that time was nolva for pct and most never bothered with that haha

I'm gonna say try running the deca at 500-600mg per and run it with test prop (this way with the short ester u can adjust your dosage during your cycle if need be. Run the cycle for 12 weeks, somthing like this:

deca 500-600 per week
test prop 200 per week
clomid/nolva for pct 3 weeks after last injection of deca

I'm one of the guys that have had a terrible experience with nandrolone, but for many it works wonders... I know I'm probably gonna get bashed for being a "so called vet" but giving this very '"novice" advice, but I'm a believer that deca can work on it's own for many guys... the problem is it's not fashionable to run it like we did in the old days lol

by the way... Happy Chinese New Year to all... 2012, the year of the Dragon

 

[OX]

deca/test chatter has been around a while now as far as what dosages are best... like Omegareign said, it really depends on the person... I remember back in the 90's (sh*t that's a long time ago haha) when loads of guys would run deca/dbol cycles with no test whatsoever and didn't have any libido issues... the only thing around at that time was nolva for pct and most never bothered with that haha

I'm gonna say try running the deca at 500-600mg per and run it with test prop (this way with the short ester u can adjust your dosage during your cycle if need be. Run the cycle for 12 weeks, somthing like this:

deca 500-600 per week
test prop 200 per week
clomid/nolva for pct 3 weeks after last injection of deca

I'm one of the guys that have had a terrible experience with nandrolone, but for many it works wonders... I know I'm probably gonna get bashed for being a "so called vet" but giving this very '"novice" advice, but I'm a believer that deca can work on it's own for many guys... the problem is it's not fashionable to run it like we did in the old days lol

by the way... Happy Chinese New Year to all... 2012, the year of the Dragon

China, do you still talk to these guys? I'm just curious as to what kind of health they have now. I think a guy could pretty much bet testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for them.

I might just be stuck on the "new" way of thinking but I don't understand how deca can be good without test. Deca stops test production which helps maximize and retain gains. To me it seems rediculous to run it alone but then again I didn't know shit in the 90's lol

Happy Chinese new year brotha

 

[UserAt204]

I know guys who would run deca solo too. It seemed like close to 8 weeks before libido was gone for some of them.

Many good points. Prop is a good route so you can adjust quickly. I would start at 400-500 deca and 200mg of test, see how you feel and adjust from there but remember that after adjusting doses it can take some time to see the benefit.

I personally like a good amount of both but would like to ovcassionaly run 150-200 test and 400-600 deca just for collagen synth purposes.

 

[Shovel]

I'm running it at 250 test and 600 deca e5d. My sex drive isn't as pyscho as it was on a gram of test, which is actually a good thing. No problems whatsoever and strong as a mofo lately.

 

[Thedroidstr]

I ran 100mg test cyp and 500 mg deca for 12 weeks with no problems a little backne that's it I think it depends on the person but you can always add more test