d/bol, test cypionate and deca but I'm switching to just decca and winstrol for the last 5 weeks
LAWNSAVER said:You can take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Proviron at the same time. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should only be taken to revert or prevent testicular atrophy. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will not help to restart your HPTA.
this is the first time i heard Human Chorionic Gonadotropin ( Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ) not reboosting test levels
would one run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after last shot is out of the systen for like 2 weeks and then hit some clomid? Or, run it after last shot immediately for 2 weeks and then hit some clomid....
LAWNSAVER said:The longer you wait to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the better the chance of suppressing your HPTA more. Take it now in small doses until you are finished your cycle and then take clomid/n-dex as usual. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can revert the atrophy even while you are on the gear.
Vegasboy , Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will induce a surge of serum testosterone, but this surge is temporary and will suppress the HPTA further. It will also increase estrogen slightly, which is not something we want when we are trying to restart our HPTA. That is why I recomend taking small doses throughout the entire cycle. This will prevent any atrophy from setting in. If atrophy can be avoided, it will allow for a faster and more effective HPTA therapy.
eastarr69 said:i dont use deca, so someone else will have to tell you how long that sits in the system, but you would run it for the last shot until it is out of the system, then i assume you will be running clomid or something...i generally run omna, and i run proviron until i start the clomid which is 3 weeks after last injection since it is in my system that long, then on to the clomid..
Batman said:Sorry guys, but maybe there is something I did not understand:
I never thougt it was a good idea to run Nolva or Clomid while I'm still with Proviron
LAWNSAVER said:I'm not sure what info you got, but what were the reasons that you understand to be correct?
Proviron is used to stimulate spermagenisus, and to increase free test by occupying SHBGs. I am not sure what negative interactions they would have. I can understand that some might think that proviron is a strong enough androgen to count act the effects of clomid when using it to reestablish your HPTA, but in my experiences 25mg ED shouldnt effect the restoration of the HPTA. 50+mg can have a negative effect on the restoration of the HPTA, but doses up to 150mg ED will only suppress the HPTA in some cases.