25 years old, 165 lbs, 3 years into trainig

[Hypnotix]

Okay, I've made up my mind will do this cycle, right now I might be around 170 pounds, will try to go till 175... Go on a cut and then will start it.. Now my question is if I cut I'll lose weight, so should I bulk up again till 175?I am going to start buying everything will keep my stack
ready, is the quantity of the Arimidex and hcg correct or should I increase it is 1000iu? Any last minute changes that need to be made? Please suggest.

If you're taking the plunge on running the cycle, there shouldn't be so many questions left.. you should have a very clear plan for dosing of all necessary meds, and a timeline written out to keep up with.

Personally if I was gonna do a Test only cycle (which I just did), I would use it to help me do the thing hardest for me first, grow. Cutting down is easy, you eat less.. growing is the hard part you have to eat a shit ton! Test is great at promoting growth, and amazing for recovery..just saying why not use it to do the hard part and cut a couple months after PCT?

Do you have everything you need for the cycle and post cycle in hand?

 

[Matt0071]

But ive read everywhere 1g/lb protein is enough, layne norton had written smothing and even lyle mcdonald,

I don't understand why u even begin to agree with 3j bro
He for one is way outta your league dieting/training wise, and trust me if u wanna learn how to properly eat and bulk I will assure u by the end of the day u don't want to look at another piece of food!
Myself last year I bulked up to 220lbs, leaned down to my lowest was 175lbs under sub 8 percent bf I dunno roughly the bf I was at but was low at the end of my cut, as I did it.myself and I chopped to long I believe
Been with 3j since Sept of last year, and his plan was to obviously bulk.me back up during the winter months, I followed his plan bulked up to 230lbs what 3j had set for me the weight he wanted me to achieve
I started with 3j I believe around 180 sum lbs around 9 percent bf and from sept to this Feb I put on close to 50lbs with 3j
As he has said he can write people out a plan but it's your choice as well to stick with it, in my opinion spend your money on 3j bro and learn how to properly diet first and bulk yourself up first before fooling around with aas

 

[Matt0071]

U just see to many guys now at least where I live and it's so noticeable it's not even funny
There sticks when they begin to train, then they decide to hit the darkside, without even knowing one thing on what they are doing, there diet stinks, they fill out there 150lbs soaking wet frame a bit, they act like there unstoppable at the time, and then the vicous cycle continue's as they then get there skinny little friends to juice up because that's the ticket to getting big haha
Truth be known and seen it tons of times, once they decide to come off u don't see them in the gym for a few months and once u do they look like soccer players once again if not worse
It's horrible

 

[Matt0071]

Okay, I've made up my mind will do this cycle, right now I might be around 170 pounds, will try to go till 175... Go on a cut and then will start it.. Now my question is if I cut I'll lose weight, so should I bulk up again till 175?I am going to start buying everything will keep my stack
ready, is the quantity of the Arimidex and hcg correct or should I increase it is 1000iu? Any last minute changes that need to be made? Please suggest.

Honestly what are u going to cut? U need to build properly, eat properly, and learn the nutritional aspect of things

 

[Ajinkya]

I don't understand why u even begin to agree with 3j bro
He for one is way outta your league dieting/training wise, and trust me if u wanna learn how to properly eat and bulk I will assure u by the end of the day u don't want to look at another piece of food!
Myself last year I bulked up to 220lbs, leaned down to my lowest was 175lbs under sub 8 percent bf I dunno roughly the bf I was at but was low at the end of my cut, as I did it.myself and I chopped to long I believe
Been with 3j since Sept of last year, and his plan was to obviously bulk.me back up during the winter months, I followed his plan bulked up to 230lbs what 3j had set for me the weight he wanted me to achieve
I started with 3j I believe around 180 sum lbs around 9 percent bf and from sept to this Feb I put on close to 50lbs with 3j
As he has said he can write people out a plan but it's your choice as well to stick with it, in my opinion spend your money on 3j bro and learn how to properly diet first and bulk yourself up first before fooling around with aas

Maybe I'll just hire 3j and take it from there.

 

[Ajinkya]

If you're taking the plunge on running the cycle, there shouldn't be so many questions left.. you should have a very clear plan for dosing of all necessary meds, and a timeline written out to keep up with.

Personally if I was gonna do a Test only cycle (which I just did), I would use it to help me do the thing hardest for me first, grow. Cutting down is easy, you eat less.. growing is the hard part you have to eat a shit ton! Test is great at promoting growth, and amazing for recovery..just saying why not use it to do the hard part and cut a couple months after PCT?

Do you have everything you need for the cycle and post cycle in hand?

Damn! I thought I was ready.. Everytime I think I am some new question arises, maybe I'll study a bit more about aas..

 

[Ajinkya]

Hey, im back.. took all the advice i could.. i gained 10 lbs.. now i will maintin this for a week or 2 and cut back for a month or so.. and then start with the cycle.. i think my body has stopped growing or changing.. reached my potential i guess.. so will strat shopping for everything in a few days, just wanted to run it by you guys again.. i forgot i had this thread..


Week1-12 TEST E 500mg, 250mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu a week till 3 days of my PCT
Arimidex .25mg EOD starting day 2 of my cycle

Week 13-14
continue hCG and Arimidex through this period. Will Stop about two days before PCT starts.


Week 15: 75mg clomid ED & 40mg novladex ED
Week 16-18: 50mg clomid & 20mg novladex

Also is Fincar okay for the hairloss?

Should i increase HCG?

I'll be using 1" 25g needle, in my glutes..

 

[omgmike1]

Hey, im back.. took all the advice i could.. i gained 10 lbs.. now i will maintin this for a week or 2 and cut back for a month or so.. and then start with the cycle.. i think my body has stopped growing or changing.. reached my potential i guess.. so will strat shopping for everything in a few days, just wanted to run it by you guys again.. i forgot i had this thread..


Week1-12 TEST E 500mg, 250mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu a week till 3 days of my PCT
Arimidex .25mg EOD starting day 2 of my cycle

Week 13-14
continue hCG and Arimidex through this period. Will Stop about two days before PCT starts.


Week 15: 75mg clomid ED & 40mg novladex ED
Week 16-18: 50mg clomid & 20mg novladex

Also is Fincar okay for the hairloss?

Should i increase HCG?

I'll be using 1" 25g needle, in my glutes..

500IU PW IS GOOD. Any higher and it causes higher Estrogen problems.

I ALREADY TOLD U FINCAR NO. USE ZINC SHAMPOO.

12 WEEKS IS TOO SHORT. RUN IT 16 @ 500mg

and 100mg Clomid and 40 Nova for the first week PCT
Then cut in half for weeks 3-4.

Dont run HCG during pct or AI

Oh yea and try .5 adex, better than , .25 adex cause ur atleast avoiding the chance of gyno

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Your not ready for anther 2 year atleast and 35 pounds. You need a diet and training program not steroids. invest in food.
At 44 my test levels at 360 not good.

 

[njtrening]

Everyone says 1g per lb of lean body mass but if your bulking why not eat more ? It can only benefit you @ 160 you should aim for something like 200g of protein imo

 

[Ajinkya]

500IU PW IS GOOD. Any higher and it causes higher Estrogen problems.

I ALREADY TOLD U FINCAR NO. USE ZINC SHAMPOO.

12 WEEKS IS TOO SHORT. RUN IT 16 @ 500mg

and 100mg Clomid and 40 Nova for the first week PCT
Then cut in half for weeks 3-4.

Dont run HCG during pct or AI

Oh yea and try .5 adex, better than , .25 adex cause ur atleast avoiding the chance of gyno

Week 1-16 Test E 500mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu a week till 3 days before starting PCT
Arimidex .50mg EOD starting 2nd day of my cycle

Week 17: 100mg Clomid and 40mg Nolvadex
Week 18-21: 50mg Clomid and 20mg Nolvadex

Nizoral Shampoo for hairloss

ANy more changes to be made?

 

[Megatron28]

Week 1-16 Test E 500mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu a week till 3 days before starting PCT
Arimidex .50mg EOD starting 2nd day of my cycle

Week 17: 100mg Clomid and 40mg Nolvadex
Week 18-21: 50mg Clomid and 20mg Nolvadex

Nizoral Shampoo for hairloss

ANy more changes to be made?

Too much AI unless you have high BF. Start lower (0.25mg EOD) and assess effectiveness with blood work.

You are starting PCT way too soon. Give the enanthate ester about 3 weeks to clear before starting PCT.

Run the AI until you start PCT.

What have you gotten your weight up to now and what is your current body fat %? You weren't ready just a few weeks ago. Have you had dramatic weight increases in that short of a time period?

 

[Ajinkya]

Too much AI unless you have high BF. Start lower (0.25mg EOD) and assess effectiveness with blood work.

You are starting PCT way too soon. Give the enanthate ester about 3 weeks to clear before starting PCT.

Run the AI until you start PCT.

What have you gotten your weight up to now and what is your current body fat %? You weren't ready just a few weeks ago. Have you had dramatic weight increases in that short of a time period?

No i gained upto 170 lbs now cutting back.. gained lean muscle.. increased my protein intake from 1lb to 1.5.. so right now.. ill just continue with the cycle ive been planning to do
Week1-12 TEST E 500mg, 250mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu a week till 3 days of my PCT
Arimidex .50mg EOD starting day 2 of my cycle

Wait 2 weeks
Week 15: 75mg clomid ED & 40mg novladex ED
Week 16-18: 50mg clomid & 20mg novladex

Just adex would be .50mg
and nizoral shampoo for hairloss
Will run HCG and adex .50mg until 3 days before i start PCT..

 

[Megatron28]

No i gained upto 170 lbs now cutting back.. gained lean muscle.. increased my protein intake from 1lb to 1.5.. so right now.. ill just continue with the cycle ive been planning to do
Week1-12 TEST E 500mg, 250mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
HCG @500iu a week till 3 days of my PCT
Arimidex .50mg EOD starting day 2 of my cycle

Wait 2 weeks
Week 15: 75mg clomid ED & 40mg novladex ED
Week 16-18: 50mg clomid & 20mg novladex

Just adex would be .50mg
and nizoral shampoo for hairloss
Will run HCG and adex .50mg until 3 days before i start PCT..

OK. You can ignore everything I and the other guys have been telling you. Good luck with that. Keep us posted.