Anyway to repair Testicular Atrophy

[JuicyJuggalo]

Well anything will lose effectiveness after reaching a certain point of duration. I'm just saying there is a good chance to recover testicular SIZE using the methods I've used cuz bro, my balls are night and day different in size from before juicing.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

Dude! I thought I recognized you!!!

THAT'S FUNNY SHIT Mayne! LMWCAO!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

first of all, as I already indicated you guys are putting WAY to much thought in to ball size and HCG, but ive been through this same conversation a million times and people just dont get it.

how come, the infertility studies, using up to 5,000iu's per day HAVE never reported a sizable drop in TT levels when running HCG for up to 18-24 months?

You guys are confusing what the HCG is doing to your balls, with what the AAS due to your balls.

 

[stev7667]

Yes, are you still using it? OR was it just on cycle?

No just used it at the end of the cycle.

 

[Zero V]

first of all, as I already indicated you guys are putting WAY to much thought in to ball size and HCG, but ive been through this same conversation a million times and people just dont get it.

how come, the infertility studies, using up to 5,000iu's per day HAVE never reported a sizable drop in TT levels when running HCG for up to 18-24 months?

You guys are confusing what the HCG is doing to your balls, with what the AAS due to your balls.

Your going into a field that is divided and still will be for some time lol.

His balls are functioning fine it seems(If I read right, I skimmed)... But He desires the aesthetic size back. Likely due to help improve himself mentally, confidence wise, and mental health wise to feel "normal again" I mean we would all want the same. None of us want to drop our drawers and have testicles the size of a half dead grape.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

the point your missing is the people on the other side of that field have nothing but bro science to back up their claims, yet your side is now telling him HCG will make his balls bigger for sure LMAO, obviously you havent the slightest clue yourself. not to mention your methods will SHUT HIM DOWN! it is a KNOWN fact that ball size is a poor indicator of function!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so lets shut him down to recover and what????? MAYBE he can increase size, this whole conversation is actually laughable.

 

[stev7667]

I'm just started taking high doses of trib with fenugreek and Zinc... see if this does anything. When I get back home (on vaca right now) I have like 5k IU of HcG on hand and I could get some HMG... but I am considering Juicy's idea about running a test cycle with HcG and basically trying to "reset" myself.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

reset what exactly????? I have to be missing something here, what exactly are you going to reset?????? you do realize that anytime you shut yourself down, you are desensitising your balls, and that is a fact. although the idea of desensitization and HCG making your balls bigger are the furthest thing from FACT. chubaca is a wookie, you are not making any sense.

I could care less if you cycle, but to think this will help your ball situation is absolutely ludicris.

it is obvious that juicy got bigger balls in his time off of AAS because he let his testicels re-sensitize to LH and FSH by not running ANYTHING!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

just look up KMID's story, I have been trying to help him regain HPTA function after not having it for 8 months, he will plainly tell you, or you will see in his thread that his balls did not get bigger on quit a substantial amount of HCG, yet he was through the roof in TT when he got tested on HCG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[stev7667]

just look up KMID's story, I have been trying to help him regain HPTA function after not having it for 8 months, he will plainly tell you, or you will see in his thread that his balls did not get bigger on quit a substantial amount of HCG, yet he was through the roof in TT when he got tested on HCG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok so then what it'll be?

No cycling...instead HMG/HcG?

Or just nothing because as I already mentioned... Clomid did nothing for me.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

a combination of those 2 will prolly do better for size, but as soon as you stop then what? so i guess the question you have to ask yourself is: how important is the size of my nuts? if important, nothing but time I say, and antiestrogenic foods to increase TT.

 

[stev7667]

a combination of those 2 will prolly do better for size, but as soon as you stop then what? so i guess the question you have to ask yourself is: how important is the size of my nuts? if important, nothing but time I say, and antiestrogenic foods to increase TT.

Afterward I could start up clomid/tamoxifen to jump start my natty production.

I will keep ya posted.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

OMG your still not getting it!!!!!!!! the size from these 2 are temporary!!!!!!!!!!!!! and your balls will shrink back to less than what they were before!!!!!!!! if increase FSH and LH from clomid will not do the trick now why would it do it later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your not shutdown but your about to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please dont update me, i tried to save your balls, but you sir have put them in the hands of people that dont understand what these things do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you cant run the stuff forever, unless you want to be on TRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

OMG. just forget it

 

[Ironmonger]

This is THE deepest discussion of nads I've even participated in.

 

[stev7667]

OMG. just forget it

Ok Ok, dude so then what can I do? Nothing essentially? It's not like I started last night...

Do we have any ideas? Should I just keep popping Zinc and fenugreek and hope for the best cuz I doubt I am going to see much from it.

No my test production isn't obviously shutdown but my pituitary is working in overdrive to keep it up by pumping out LH by the gallon... will I be able to keep this up for the rest of my life? I'm 28, probably not, I will prolly be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) by 45...

I am just trying to restore my nuts to some degree.

Here's a theory:

Finasteride down regulated my 5AR2 which is for some reason preventing my nuts from going back to full size. If I could find a way to upregulate 5AR2 could I fix this problem?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Like i said, and you will get no other answer from me, if increased LH and FSH production wont make your balls bigger now, running LH analog is not gonna help that situation.

Now if you choose to cycle, and decide to play around then, so be it you already shut down from the AAS.

your nuts can get perm shut down from HCG, but not from desensitization to the HCG, but they can from AAS. You seem to believe the HPTA is only comprised of 1 single signal and your balls, it is a far more complex system than that, it is a tightly coupled dynamic feedback loop.

think of it as a light bulb. you can only turn the switch on and off a number of times before it burns out. do you really wanna waste one of those, to do something that more than likely wont work? I have given you ample information of why it wont. do what you must.

 

[stev7667]

Like i said, and you will get no other answer from me, if increased LH and FSH production wont make your balls bigger now, running LH analog is not gonna help that situation.

Now if you choose to cycle, and decide to play around then, so be it you already shut down from the AAS.

your nuts can get perm shut down from HCG, but not from desensitization from the HCG, but they can from AAS. You seem to believe the HPTA is only comprised of 1 single and your balls, it is a far more complex system than that, it is a tightly coupled dynamic feedback loop.

think of it as a light bulb. you can only turn the switch on and off a number of times before it burns out. do you really wanna waste one of those, to do something that more than likely wont work? I have given you ample information of why it wont. do what you must.

OK so nothing then... dammit

Guess I serve as another example of how not to run a proper cycle.

...anyone know any docs who might be able to help me?

 

[spearofdestiny]

I hate having big swinging balls!!!lol
Rather have a youthful looking nutsack

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

OMG. just forget it

DUDE, are you on tren right now or just in post cycle therapy (pct) or something? My wife aint that bitchy, even on the rag