Bulldogs First Cycle (Pinnacle)

[MN87]

Melanotan is interesting but I have a pretty nice dark olive complexion as it is, I feel like MT would be overkill, but maybe I'll give it a shot.

No hair loss that I can tell, how noticeable is it with you? Are we talking like multiple hairs falling out in a noticeable manner? I started wearing my hair differently recently (putting it back) and every now and then I'll notice when I comb it there'll be some hairs in the comb, but nothing worth writing about.. I just figured it was knotty hair, cause otherwise my hair looks great.

I'm glad I haven't gotten many estro sides/DHT sides/hair loss/acne/CRAZY bloat (my bloat is pretty bad but I dont have moonface or anything) this time around especially since its Summer. I can deal with all that shit on my Winter/Spring bulk cause noone will really notice and there are ways to cover it up, but it woulda sucked looking like that in this nice Summer beach weather. Then again I imagine its always Summer in Socal so you really dont have the same luxuries that I do with that lol

 

[Bulldog2103]

Yeah, we'll get a handful of days of rain out here, haha. It's too hot out here sometimes to want to be in the sun for long periods of time. It's been around 110 lately so being indoors in the ac sounds more appealing to me of late. As far as hair loss, I notice more coming out when I wash my hair or comb it. It's not extreme or anything but it's enough to cause me to take preventative measures. It's just not something I want to play with since I don't have to.

As far as next cycle, i'm just not so sure that I am going to bulk. I feel like I am pretty big right now and I am not sure that I want to be bigger. Now I know alot of that is water and will come off quickly but overall I feel pretty good with where i'm at. I may turn it into a cutting cycle and see if I can't get into single digits for my bf%. I'd like to be as athletically capable as possible, so I think a cut cycle is a better fit even though the time of year would dictate that I could theoretically do a bulk in the winter and a cut before summer which is optimal for aesthetics. I'll give it more thought but I am leaning that way.

 

[Bulldog2103]

Flat bench: 375x4, slow controlled reps. Incline: 315x7, slow controlled reps. My flat bench has raised two reps and my incline has gone up 40 pounds since the cycle's beginning. Weird how that works, I guess I had much more room for development up top.

I've altered my diet to finish out with more of a cut so I am eating slightly below maintenance. I think all of the bloat got in my head and I felt the need to cut it up. The psychology involved is interesting and definitely a factor but I just don't know how much weight will drop off at cycle's end so until I experience it I won't know how to adjust and prepare. So for now I am cutting and throwing in sprints at least 4 times per week.

I'm thinking about a future cutting stack and have my eyes on combining primo and tren, with a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of test to keep it functional. I am thinking 600mg's primo with 400mg's of tren weekly. I think that would be a premiere cutting stack, and I may just give it a go. The only thing I am not certain of is whether to do it next or pre-summer. If I add humalog do you think it would give me a balance of muscle growth without the usual fat gain insulin might generate?

 

[MN87]

"Slow controlled reps"... lol was that at all influenced by a potential fear of injury?

Primo will necessitate that you run your cycle for a long time, seems like I remember reading that 20 weeks is a good length for it. Personally I want my next cycle to be a long one to so I'd be right there with you too lol... what about Mast? People seem to be all over these test/tren/mast combos

I dont think you need have any worry about fat gain using humalog so long as your diet is on point

 

[Bulldog2103]

Definitely man, it was in my head from my warmup set all the way through. I was fearful of exploding on that exercise. But it never hurts to change up the rhythm so I was able to justify it. More time under tension never hurts.

I've heard that about primo, but I don't think tren should be run that long from what I understand so it would have to be infused in 4 week bursts with 4 weeks off inbetween perhaps and maybe subbed in with Anavar (var) in those gap periods or Anavar (var) can be run all the way through. Just spitballing here, I don't know too much about extended cycles. Perhaps even an 8 weeks on tren and primo, then a 4 week break of tren and then continue for the last 8 weeks.

I've heard conflicting things about insulin reactions but what you're saying makes the most logical sense. Are all fats bad when using or just the typical saturated fats? People speak of a no fat diet and that makes no sense to me. I love my almonds and avocado. I can't imagine how monounsaturated fats would do damage to your fat retention.

Masteron is interesting but i'm not sure if the use of a dht inhibitor like dutasteride would nullify it completely. I will be using that with every cycle here on out so I believe it would block the mechanism through which masteron operates.

 

[MN87]

True... in fact, for what its worth, I got my pec injury doing somewhat jerky motions on my bench... I would like to say that I have learned from my mistake, butttt.... the allure of progress lol...

I think I'm done with Anavar (var) after this cycle man, I wish you the best with it and it's an awesome compound in terms of results but the cramps are a huge annoyance. I really have come to believe this stiffness played a role in my injury yesterday somehow. I guess gauge it yourself when you run but start raising your eyebrows if you start cramping spontaneously like I have been... maybe go lower than 100? I could be completely off kilter though and Anavar (var) could have had no role, as you said sometimes we grow too fast for our own good (hell just a week or two ago my bench was 30 pounds lighter)

Just any and all fats around the time you pin the slin. So for humolog, the window is what, couple hours? You'd probably be safe taking any type of fats in after that window but within the windows I'd stay with lean protein and lean carbs (by that I mean little to no fat mixed in with them)

 

[Bulldog2103]

Ok so my 50 grams of protein mixed with maybe 75 carbs of waxy maize will suffice directly after injection and then an hour later eat another lean meat source, say chicken with brown rice and veggies? Humalog is awesome, in and out in a couple of hours is crazy. So it goes in, transports nutrients and gets the fuck out? And it's cheap? Yeah, I need to get in on that, I love the efficiency. Perhaps there is something out there that will increase insulin sensitivity, would that make the effects more profound?

 

[MN87]

Dunno, now youre getting a bit too scientific for me lol... but yeah I think the nutrition aspect as you put it is pretty accurate. I will probably order some Humalog myself early in this upcoming week, just trying to decide on the best source.

 

[Bulldog2103]

I can't imagine we will find bunk humalog as many people obviously require it and it is very cheap to manufacture. I would assume 99% are good to go. I've also read that for a straight bulk that many bodybuilders will take humalog twice per day, which obviously means that you are straight carb-loading to a crazy degree. I would stick to post-workout protocol only but it would be a great practice for a hardgainer I imagine which we are not.

 

[MN87]

Yeah my plan was to stick to post workout too. Apparently there are other protocols out there, but I can look into em later, I just want to have something solid ironed out for PCT.

I don't think we'll find a whole lot of bunk Humalog either but I just wanna be sure. Only Eli Lilly manufactures it so if I come across a 'generic'/non Lilly-manufactured brand I will probably think twice...

 

[Bulldog2103]

Performed barbell squats today for the first time in at least 3 weeks. I told myself I wouldn't go higher then 315, which is my usual warmup weight and I was able to stick with the plan which is unusual for me. I felt some tightness when I picked up the weight so although my back is much improved, it certainly let me know that it's not quite ready for a maximal load. I'll move up at least 100 pounds next week and continue to monitor everything. I still got a good workout out of it, I paused at the bottom for two seconds before exploding up for every rep and kept my rep ranges between 15-25 each set.

The tren and the slight caloric deficit is tightening me up. Although it certainly has muscle and strength building effects I would say the most prominent of any is the fat burning. I can't imagine that there is a better compound for either a cut or clean bulk cycle. I'll have to check my weight again but I am hoping to have attained at least 6 pounds of lean mass on this cycle. I know i've worked hard enough, i'm maximizing everyday and pushing myself for more. It has had no impact on my cardio endurance and i aim to increase my cardio workouts from 4 days per week to 6-7.

Sleeping is still interrupted and I am sweating like a mad man but all of these sides are very manageable. Looking for new ab exercises, have any suggestions? I typically do decline weighted situps and hanging leg raises, with oblique work mixed in. I'd like to add something to that mix to get them popping.

 

[metsfan4life]

hows the Insulin treating ya man? Im a type 1 diabetic so any questions on it, just shoot

 

[Bulldog2103]

hows the Insulin treating ya man? Im a type 1 diabetic so any questions on it, just shoot

Haven't purchased it yet but I most definitely will. I'm looking for humalog specifically as it's the fastest acting. It appears to be maybe the most cost-efficient anabolic out there, so if all goes well I will be on it a very long time. I just have to figure out the timing of injection and meals for that 4 hour window that it is active.

 

[jimmylocks]

you lucked out with the gear I use prop and tren and both are a pain in the ass...lol....I only mention it because you mentioned your desire for strength gains....In my experience test/with tren is the breakfast of champions as far as huge strength gains.I also read your goal was to drop some body fat.the test/tren can help but in my experience DIET is everything.feed yourself right and you would be amazed what a difference it can make. When I first started training I would eat just about everything and got away with it because I was young.Now I am older and even timing out my meals makes a difference. Good luck. You made me laugh reading about how once that test kicked in you got all motivated to work out more. I did the same thing... be careful not to over train rest can be just as important as the workout and diet...even a melatonin(5mg)supplement might help you sleep..Have fun... great to hear your feeling good!!

 

[metsfan4life]

Haven't purchased it yet but I most definitely will. I'm looking for humalog specifically as it's the fastest acting. It appears to be maybe the most cost-efficient anabolic out there, so if all goes well I will be on it a very long time. I just have to figure out the timing of injection and meals for that 4 hour window that it is active.

I see. yes, Humalog is a fast acting insulin, I used to be on that but it began to to wear off on me for some reason so switched over to Novalog and havent had any problems with levels in the 3 years. Both are fast acting insulin brands, so you couldnt go wrong with either of the 2. I think you will have to play with it a little and see how you feel. For me, the insulin begins working on my levels after about 20 minutes, unless my sugar is sky high and it takes a little longer. Id say inject and wait 15 minutes or so and then get some carbs and protein into your muscles. If you start feeling a little light headed/woozy...Id drop that to about 10minutes.


As for the insulin sensitivity, I increased mine during the winter days by injecting and immediately eating something with quick sugars (my glucose tabs) which over time helped to be able to inject a little more. Now obviously I wouldnt do this for too long of a time since I need insulin on a regular basis but you may find this to a tad beneficial

 

[MN87]

What you weighing nowadays? And how's your bloat? Just curious.

Ever try the OH squats for abs? Front squats and zercher squats (look them up) will also give your core a serious workout.

As far as isos go, a recent thing of mine has been weighted leg raises supersetted with butterfly kicks... gives me a SICK 'pop'.

 

[Bulldog2103]

I'm holding steady at 196. How about you, where is your weight at these days? Bloat is still there, but not that bad. I'm using clomid 25mg's EOD and I think that's helping keep it pretty minimal.

I will try the OH squats this week and report back. I usually do abs at the end of every workout but they don't get sore anymore so I definitely need to change it up. Though the decline situps with the 45 overhead is definitely a winner.

 

[Bulldog2103]

So I had a thought today that i'm thinking of implementing for the final 2-3 weeks of this cycle. I'm thinking of experimenting with a higher dose of tren and cutting down my test to a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) level, maybe 150mg's weekly so that I can finish out this cycle with a bit of a cutting phase and strip off the bloat that remains. Also, it would give me an indicator of what I should expect if I were to do a full cut cycle with these doses. Any and all thoughts are welcome, I tend to like to experiment with things until i've perfected them. The more I can learn from this cycle the better my future ones will be.

For a reference point, i'm thinking 350 mg's of tren and 150 mg's of test. I have some Anavar (var) so I could add that but i'd like to isolate tren's capabilities so I think I will save the Anavar (var) for a future run.

 

[MN87]

My weight/bloat varies depending on a bunch of stuff. I have noticed that when on juice I am EXTREMELY sensitive to diet, much moreso than when I'm natural. Friday, for example, I had a lot of sodium containing foods, and my weight jumped up to 218 by the next day. I'm now 208, still carrying excess water. If I can stay completely clean (which I intend to do these next few weeks), I hover in the 197-203 region... still bloated, but acceptable.

Decline situps with 45 pounds is strong man, good shit, I can't do anywhere near that!

Regarding your last point, I too have thought of that, but decided it would be better left experimenting on my next cycle. I want to be sure that when I transition to post cycle therapy (pct) (which is right around the corner) that there is no doubt that there is less tren than test in my system so as to decrease suppression effects... whereas in my future, longer cycle, I'll have a longer time to experiment with dosing and such and more leeway with which to modify it all going into post cycle therapy (pct).

I will say that I really don't plan on ever running test this high again at 700/wk (at least during the summer months), the sensitivity to bloat is simply unacceptable.

 

[Bulldog2103]

Yeah man, I can't imagine the bloat on 700mg's. I get enough at 400, i'm sure it would be a serious mental challenge to stick with it when the bloat is that severe. Agreed, that much test should be reserved for winter bulking only. It's crazy to me how your weight varies so much from day to the next. As you said, you must be extremely sensitive to any sodium intake at that dose.

Interesting side to note, my nipples are hard 24-7. This began about a week ago and has continued. Not really worried about it but am definitely keeping an eye on it and making sure it's not gyno related. If it is, I will have letro shut that shit down.